Yeah, but the FBI have no business categorizing ICP as a gang because of how people look. It's fucking ridiculous, sloppy, and an embarrassment to the government.

I'm no fan of the retards that are down with the clown, but I'm even less of a fan of governmental sloppiness & overreach.

I dunno, dressing up alike in clown makeup and beating the shit out of people as a group inside local Waffle Houses sure makes you sound like a gang.

http://web.archive.org/web/20080112093434/http://www.rollingst one.com/news/story/5929428/insane_clown_posse_plead_guilty

Furthermore, fuck ICP, and all their fans. Anything that makes their lives harder is hardly an injustice. You know how many times I was subjected to The Great Milenko, easily among the worst albums ever recorded, in high school? Fuck them, fuck their music, fuck pro wrestling, fuck their retarded take of fundamental Christianity, and fuck their stupid clown parties.

You shouldn't criminalize bad taste, but you should always be able to laugh at it. This video features grown men in clown makeup.

I want my government to know who conforms to any given image of a threat. I don't want my government to acts on said knowledge until there is evidence of a threat, but, and here's where I sound like an absolute Conservative McConservatism, but I also seem to think they know what they're doing. They've been doing it for a long time, they know a few things. Yes, they make errors now and again, but we never hear about the successes.

And fuck ICP, I think that's important to say.

Perhaps the problem here is the FBI only has a category that runs along the lines of "this is a group whose acts are criminal and need to be curtailed."

For Juggalos, they need a category that's kind of like "Oh, shit, it's these people again. If seen in groups of more than three, they're bound to do something stupid that'll result in injury, property damage, and a YouTube video of the security footage you could watch with 'Yakkity Sax' as the soundtrack."

So replace "criminal gang" with "dangerous to themselves and others" and maybe we can all agree that the feds need to at least herd them away from major population centers.

Do you know what I am saying?

Here's a crazy, off-the-wall idea: if you don't want your dipshit followers committing crimes and making your fanbase look bad, then don't call them "ninjas" and maybe don't incorporate a logo of a maniac wielding a hatchet as your band's symbol.

Yeah, that is pretty crazy. Fucking retarded is another way of viewing it. "OMG they use violent imagery in their logo! And they use a jokey action B movie term for their followers! RUN AWAAAAYYYY!!!!!"

fuck off idiot

So far we had ICP plus dumb totalitarian machinations now we have goofy internet false bravado. Perfection.

Good one, Chancho.

Certainly any of the major counter culture groups led by the "hippies" were monitored by the gubment, and plenty of hippies were hassled just for looking like hippies. But just like with any large group, there were some bad hippies that needed to be hassled and watched, if youknowwhatimsayin, and I imagine there are plenty of retarded juggalos (I know, that's all of em, but I mean dangerously retarded) that need to be watched also.

That being said, I think most juggalos are just poor lost souls with horrible taste and/or DNA. Leave it to the ever overreaching feds to be the one way to make me feel a little sympathy for juggalos.

The list of groups watched by the Bush Administration was long and rather disturbing. Many of them were peace movements or just groups that wanted such dangerous things as human rights or an end to police brutality.

My only problem with your theory is that a person like that would most likely not be fat, wouldn't they?

Or perhaps they're stupid enough to buy that "Sugar in the Raw" stuff and think it's meth?

I'm sure there's plenty of people who grow out of it.

When Super Mario games are all about committing crimes on property and people and encourage kids to act out these things in real life and then people wearing Mario merchandise actually start doing it and then engaging in continuous anti-social behavior based on their shitty subculture to the point where Mario is now instantly associated with mongoloid dumbshits with the intelligence of a rotten potato who apply violence as the first solution to anything, then I guess we'll all have to suffer the consequences of that gang classification.

I'm perfectly OK with the FBI profiling "lifestyle" gamers.

This.