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SolRo - 2012-12-04

How to stop this/get rich

1) Use the same method to try to promote Islam.
2) Sue the school districts after they reject the program.
3) Profit.

Gmork - 2012-12-04

To be fair, islam is a religion of hate. Not sure where this "islam as a religion of peace" malarkey got started, but it's quite baffling.

Gmork - 2012-12-04

Clarification - i'm giving credit to christianity for at least having some legitimate moral principles not based on prejudice as the actual moral tenets of the religion, even if the practice of it by its constituents is utterly hypocritical.

IrishWhiskey - 2012-12-04

Islam has plenty of moral principles, and like Christianity it includes and endorses barbaric practices of the time, including stoning of women and children, threatening doubters with eternal torture, promising earthly death and destruction for non-believers, and endorsing the Old Testament. The rules of Islamic society were awful, but so were the Hebrew rules that Jesus upheld and endorsed.

If you can ignore the hatred in Christianity, you can ignore the hatred in Islam. This bullshit about how Islam doesn't deserve the same protection as Christianity because it's violent, is just a myth believed by Christians who refuse to acknowledge the text or history of their own faith critically. For thousands of years the Islamic empires were considered more civilized than the Christian ones, and it's not like their texts changed suddenly.

Cena_mark - 2012-12-04

All Abrahamic religions are barbaric and include bits about killing non-believers. The only difference is how history affected the religions. Radical Islam is a rather modern concept stemming from imperialism... blame 911 on the British.

Preybyemail - 2012-12-04

Hi, Im Gmork, and after speaking my mind i was had to throw some negative shit in there so you guys would still think im cool. i mean christians suck and stuff. Right guys? im cool right?

EvilHomer - 2012-12-04

I don't know if I buy that "Radical Islam is really about imperialism" thing anymore. Have Western colonial interests played a role in shaping the violence in modern Islam? Of course. It's no secret, these interests are alluded to many times by the "radical Muslims" themselves, and often factor heavily in pro-terrorist agitprop found in Western-oriented markets. But it seems to me that this "imperialst" interpretation makes more sense, and carries more weight, in the minds of middle class Western folks accustomed to our society's post-colonial academic narrative, than in the minds of the "radical Muslims" themselves.

When an Arab goes and blows himself to bloody chunks in a crowded market, is he doing it because he thinks the Balfour Declaration was a pretty shitty capstone to a half century of European exploitation? Or is he doing it because he thinks that's what God wants, and is convinced he's going to be eternally rewarded in heaven?

It's like trying to reduce Eric Rudolph to "just some guy who didn't like globalization and rich people". We'd all see the problem with THAT, right?

memedumpster - 2012-12-04

SolRo, you are an absolute GENIUS! I am not being sarcastic.

Also, Christianity, Islam, and Judaism are all religions of hate and should be destroyed. You can't start picking which blade in a garbage disposal should take the blame for cutting off your child's fingers.

SteamPoweredKleenex - 2012-12-04

The Arab religions are about imperialism? Who do you think carved up most of the Middle East the way it is today? Here's some hints: They drank lots of tea, wore red, and managed to have a global empire without improving their cuisine until it collapsed.

And it's not like we haven't got two wars going on that were started by a dope who claimed the Christian god told him to go start them.

I really wish people would look both at living standards and religion as a package, because there are people in America that I have no doubt would be strapping bombs to themselves for Jeebus and calling for women to be burned if America was as big a poverty-ridden hell hole ruled by despots supported by other nations as the Middle East is.

Wonko the Sane - 2012-12-04


According to the bible slavery was caused by (and is justified by) someone having seen a really old penis.

Cena_mark - 2012-12-05

I know the modern suicide bomber isn't thinking about the Balfour Declaration, but he is a product of imperialism. Towards the 20th century people in the Arab world were tired of being colonies, and what did they use the rally people? Religion. It was the easiest way to drive the "Us vs Them" mentality. They were under the rule of heathen Christians. This created the more violent Islam and crazy Islam we know today.

Gmork - 2012-12-04

5 for evil. The evil idea that without this program the children are bereft of moral guidance or wholesomeness.

IrishWhiskey - 2012-12-04

A young child is pointing to the sign "pray for those who persecute you" at 3:15. I'd bet anything that lesson includes defining persecution as "we aren't allowed to make this shit mandatory".

themilkshark - 2012-12-04

Christianity is so filled with flawed logic that m

themilkshark - 2012-12-04

Most kids doubt the teachings at an early age, and become agnostic or atheist before they even graduate high school. This is just low rent daycare with God flavoring.

EvilHomer - 2012-12-04

I don't really see anything wrong with this. I went to my homo-agenda clubs after school, why can't the lolxtians have theirs, too?

memedumpster - 2012-12-04

Making out in abandoned lots smoking stolen cigarettes is a time honored and credible tradition not to be sullied with comparisons to Christianity.

We must preserve our secular values.

IrishWhiskey - 2012-12-04

Religion is afforded special protections and tax exempt status, but it must be kept separate from government endorsement. What constitutes endorsement can be a fine line, particularly when government buildings and schools are used as churches. Many schools do allow religious and secular clubs without favoritism, but if a public school wanted to allow only secular clubs, or those with academic purposes, they'd be allowed to.

In this video, in addition to the cringe-inducing open admission that they have to target and indoctrinate young kids early or else they won't believe it, there are public school principles endorsing the program. It doesn't matter that they might similarly endorse a secular club, you still shouldn't have government representatives in charge of kids telling them how great it is to sign up with a religion.

newbilus - 2012-12-04

Ratings disabled.

baleen - 2012-12-04

Yeah. Hopefully they'll get enough horrible comments they have to moderate that they'll just kill themselves.

boner - 2012-12-04

Until I was around, I guess 10-12 years old, our public schools began the day with a PA announcement of the Lord's Prayer, read by students including me. I am still kind of amazed that ever happened. Only a few years later, one of my best teachers got his ass fired for forming an after-school christian club. I wish he hadn't done that, it was a bad idea.

Oddly enough this was in Canada where there is no separation of church & state, in fact the government supports catholic schools, and that town's council meetings still begin with the lord's prayer. (If you live in the town where I grew up, you better fuckin go to church and eat nothing but red meat and potatoes)

memedumpster - 2012-12-04

In second grade, we opened the day with the Lord's Prayer, the Pledge of Allegiance, and a nuclear attack drill.

erratic - 2012-12-04

"There goes the supreme court again, legislating from the b...what? they agreed with us? Hey! guys! so, anyway, the SUPREME COURT says that we can do this. Isn't our government great?"

Quad9Damage - 2012-12-04

"You have to defend it, or the Enemy will take it from you."

WHY does a significant portion of our population seriously believe in a trickster fallen angel that was retconned from a talking snake? Why are they still afraid of him stealing their children?

Rodents of Unusual Size - 2012-12-06



Cena_mark - 2012-12-05

I hate the word "mission field" Makes the kids sound like a bunch of dirty, heathen, savages.

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