So did any cops get their homes raided and their families searched? What about city officials? While I don't think they set out to be oppressive, I don't think they have any problem with it either.

Maybe this was just a juicy opportunity to raid a house they've been dying to get into but had no legal reason before.

Or maybe just for practice? If you don't use it you lose it.

Privacy is a purely Age of Reason phenomenon, and the sooner we ditch the pretense, along with other similar constructs like copyright, freedom of religion and the avoirdupois, we'll be on our way to an empire of mankind, free from God, free from altruism, FREE FOR OPPORTUNITY.

Yep, privacy is an experiment by white European people that's only a few hundred years old and seems to be reaching the end of it's usable life. I'll miss it a lot but I don't see it lasting too much longer.

Pre renaissance architecture didn't have halls because what the fuck is a hall? You just walk from one room to another, why wouldn't you walk through a room in your own home? All rooms are public places.

I'm not saying this is a good thing to return to but seems like it's the way things are headed.

But this video isn't really much of an indicator one way or the other.

Had I read what I wrote out loud, I'd have done so in an impression of noted mid-century character actor, Hans Conried.

My problem is we've set the bar where this is now okay, and you know someone's going to try lowering it. Is a cop killing enough? Mass shooting? Armed robbery?

Point taken and I generally agree with your concerns. I just wanted to point out the relevant legal principal involved.

Yeah, understandable. Given the scope I'd like to see this laid out clearly or only authorized at the federal level, and including broad rules to pretty much exempt anything out found during this.

I see this and all I can imagine is sheriff Joe Arapio rubbing his hands with glee and waiting for the next time a violent suspect is described as Mexican.

Anything else found, that is.

we Americans are definitely living in a surveillance state

I believe that what happened in Watertown is not all that significant of an indicator of this

What jangbones said.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not happy with the situation either, but since nothing is going to be done by the people to actually prevent this sort of thing, the least the people could do is try and secure boundaries for having their rights violated, instead of letting it happen at random.

Stop being a troofer (see that, a MLP pun!), it was just a coincidence that the terrorist act fell on the day a Siege of Boston re-enactment was happening. All those people signed up to be measles ridden Brits for the show.

My thoughts exactly, EvilHomer. Though at least they didn't shoot at random civilians like the LAPD.

but hey, at least Boston PD is paying for all the damage they did to that vigilant citizen's boat for shooting it up like it was Sonny Corleone stuck at a toll booth.

...lol

This isn't new for Boston.
Don't read this while operating a killdozer.

http://www.aclum.org/sites/all/files/education/aclum_safe_home s_briefing_v2.pdf

Those were the days.

Also,
http://aclum.org/policing_dissent

good reads. Thanks.