He used to be incredibly funny.

I guess it's hard to be funny after you gambled away millions of dollars and all you have left is a belief that you know what science is. And don't.

Even when Norm bombs he is fucking killing it-- his stuff now might actually be better than his snl "career" days. Listen to his podcast interview with Larry King... Fuck, listen to all his podcasts...

his podcast with Russel Brand is one of the best things ever

Norm MacDonald is a comic genius, not a scientific genius. If you require the comedians you like to be infallible then you have no sense of humor to begin with. I agree with Bill Maher and Jon Stewart most of the time but their comedy is atrocious.

he also has that xtian persecution complex going. strike two right there.

He is funny fuck you guys.

If not finding Norm Macdonald funny means you have no sense of humor, then I'm quite proud to proclaim my lack of a sense of humor, because never once has Norm Macdonald said something I found funny.

So you wouldn't have a problem with the stupid and crazy shit Victoria Jackson says as long as she was a good comedian earlier in her carrier?

I don't care if someone is a crazy wingbat Christian as long as they have something interesting or funny to say. Norm is probably the funniest, irreverent comedian working (when he can get work). He pisses every one off, including some people here-- which makes me love him more.

@theSnake
Crazy, sure, but I really don't think it's that hard to come across any trust with the scientific community then simply looking through a microscope.

I just hope the celebrities of Norm's era fade away into obscurity.

I still think Norm is totally fucking hilarious, but I hate what he claims to believe in and it 'gee, golly' explanations for why (i.e. Scientists were wrong once about the earth being the center of the universe, and now they say it revolves around the sun, so fuck all science because I can't think of science on terms other than as an alternative religion).

It's the duality of art and expression. Without separating the art from the artist, you'll likely just hate everything, because everyone has shitty parts to them, no matter how talented they may be. I had to do this in college so much, when some of the most horrid personalities in my photography classes would produce some of my favorite stuff in the class. Yes, are is an expression of the artist and thus a part of him, but the trick is remembering it's only PART of him.

Alright, I've been zen bullshit enough lately.

He is funny. You are an idiot if you don't find Norm MacDonald funny. This is an objective truth. I'm sorry.

What baleen said.

The answer to his question is "no" (perhaps a qualified "no") because people already knew it was round years before Christ would have been alive if he was a real person.

Christ I hope I'm not in my 'twilight years' by the time I'm 50.

Over 50 is borrowed time for most celebs.

Gilbert's problem was not that he wasn't smart enough or funny enough. He's both, he's just considered atypical for a leading role in terms of looks, which is a shame because comedians should not be judged on looks. He's unique, and he's actually quite intelligent. He's just never been given the breaks other comedians have.

I think part of it is also capitalizing on marketing skills and self promotion. Gilbert was able to cash in on voice overs for a while and he did well with that, but look at some of the comedians even in stand up that make it big these days. Dane Cook, Fluffy, Jeff "I fuck comedy in the ass and laugh" Dunham, Larry the Fake Hick, Katt Williams are all empty as they come and they pack in theaters even though there are dozens of more talented comedians out there.

Norm McDonald never simplified his act and he never bothered to create a real niche for himself. I think he just gave up.

I probably shouldn't admit this, but I liked dunhams early bits with the purple puppet thing that would verbally abuse him and call him out on stupid things he said. And then he went full retard.

i'm pretty sure he's only got a grade 8 education (not a bit, i seem to remember reading he dropped out real early)

eh, there are plenty of unfunny moments.

he also says he doesn't believe in science because geo-centrism existed (and credits "scientists" for it, which is its own subset of stupid xtian ignorance) and then got disproven, so he concludes all or most science is wrong.

He's going out of his way to say he's a fundie, I think you're just in denial.

He's _clearly_ trying as hard as he can to explain that he's a Christian fundamentalist, yes.

It's not a "haha he's a conservative" thing for me as much as "haha he really doesn't know anything, holy shit is he stupid."

I mean, I don't laugh at him for being pro life but I will sure as fuck laugh at him for thinking that Earth being at the center of the universe was an idea advanced by scientific theory. Or that DNA can be refuted.

I'll admit that this does put a damper on my enjoyment of Norm, but it's juxtaposed with me feeling more and more disheartened with antagonistic funny men.

Strange enough, Jerry's interview with Howard Stern on his Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee was a bit uplifting on personal achievement.

Earth IS at the center of the (observable) universe.

I subscribe to the egocentric model; I am literally the center of the universe.

Exactly
5 for horror

Is it cocaine bloat?

It was probably seroids. He'd been fighting cancer.