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Desc:Break ups, they don't get any better this.
Category:Crime, Video Games
Tags:charity, sex worker, Zoe Quinn, Depression Quest, Wizardchan
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Date:08/19/14
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Comment count is 81
MacGyver Style Bomb
I'll be glad once summer is over and all these dumb kids are back in school.
Sanest Man Alive
Dammit, I voted this up without watching because I thought it was about the Five Neat Guys!
Spaceman Africa
video game drama
EvilHomer
Dang. She's pretty cute!

I have no idea what's going on here. Is this guy connected to Wizardchan?
Pillager
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1s4nmr1

&

http://www.gamerheadlines.com/2014/08/kotaku-and-zoe-quinn-acc used-of-exchanging-positive-press-for-sex/

Phil Fish makes everything more entertaining.

EvilHomer
Drama is worth a five! Also, Depression Quest sounds horrible. Does anyone have a Your Indie Game is Bad and You Should Feel Bad thing?

Sputum
I went on a few okcupid dates with zoe quinn like a year and a half ago. She isn't like a bad person this shit storm is really stupid.

Sputum
One thing I can say I've learned from her is that any sort of internet celebrity should be avoided at all cost because jesus there are some obsessive maniacs out there

betamaxed
people gettin mad about vidya games.
magnesium
*sigh*
I spent seven years in the games industry. I am so glad I'm done. "Gamers" have to be the most obsessive, entitled group of people currently (and possibly ever) inhabiting this planet. I can't think of a stupider thing to get this worked up about.

Remember how EA got voted the worst company in America twice in a row? There are companies trying to privatize bodies of water, paying disabled people ##CONTENT##.22 an hour, changing laws so that they can treat their employees and the environment like absolute shit. But EA put too much DRM on Sim City, which is the true crime against humanity.
EvilHomer
You worked for EA, didn't you?

Refund me those donuts, you bastard.

SolRo
EA treats their employees like shit too.

Those more evil companies are nowhere near as large and omnipresent either. Easier to hit the biggest target

Nominal
Koch industries, BP, Exxon, Chevron: not as large or omnipresent as a videogame publishing company.

SolRo
Does the average gamer (or American for that matter) know anything about them besides which one has cheaper gas?

Old_Zircon
Solro, I'm pretty sure that's the point Magnesium was making.

SolRo
NO! ITS MY POINT!!!!1!


What I mean is, EA does it's best to get into everyone's living room and then takes a shit on them. And the funny thing is, taking the shit doesn't make them much money. They'd make just as much money, if not more, if they didn't shit on their customers.

It's not specifically related to gamers being entitled or whatever, it's a problem of being very visible and doing stupid shit while everyone is watching. (and having bad PR people)

StanleyPain
I'm sorry you closet-case neckbeards are angry that Zoe Quinn made a game and is a girl.

Maybe grow the fuck up and go back into your DOTA hugbox.
TimidAres
I think people are more outraged at the fact that she slept with a bunch of people behind her then-boyfriend's back, rather than her making a game.

theSnake
"Closet case." Homophobic. "Hugbox." Ableist. Check your priv

Pillager
"I'm sorry you closet-case neckbeards are angry that Zoe Quinn made a game and is a girl."

1. Neckbeard? Guilty as charged. Closet Case? Nope, I post plenty of T&A. Shame it doesn't get upvoted...

2. Yes, Zoe has ovaries & made a game. I upvoted it on Greenlight after I thought she'd been attacked by trolls. Ha ha. Turns out she was lying. About lots of things. I hate being deceived.


"Maybe grow the fuck up and go back into your DOTA hugbox."

Do you even MOBA?

All kidding aside, I hate censorship, hypocrisy & SJWs.

I don't when this place became a sub forum of Jezebel, but DMCA copyright claims aren't the way to deal with opposing viewpoints. Tldr; Zoe's crazy & is bad for the Indie Scene.

roofle
I dunno, on one hand people are making way too big a deal about this bullshit. As if Kotaku and all those other shitty sites had "integrity" to begin with.

On the other hand, I kinda like to watch cheaters and liars go down in flames.
EvilHomer
I found something very amusing the other day, on an otherkin/waifu support forum. I've been meaning to post it, but have not found a good moment to do so. Since everyone seems to hate this submission, I don't think anyone will mind if I put it here.





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How to deal with others loving your pony?
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Iím gonna go off for a while about something thatís very complex and difficult to articulate, so ideas and concepts may get a little muddled along the way. Itís a problem Iíve been struggling with the past few days. A source of great anger, sadness, confusion, and stress for me.

The problem Iíve been working with pertains to fidelity, the fundemental core of a romantic relationship and largely what makes one so precious. As you may well know Iíve dedicated myself completely to my fantasy relationship with Twilight Sparkle. Iím completely hers. I donít have sex with anyone else, I donít masturbate to anything other than her, and Iím totally satisfied with this. Sheís all I want and desire and she completes me in that almost stereotypical way we tend to think about a romantic partner completing another. If you are not aware of my relationship with Twilight and the vast extent of my love for her please take the time to read this story recounting the last 8 months or so of my life and you will come to understand my love for her.


Where the problem occurs is in the fact that I have come to encounter, with disturbing regularity, other people who have love, romantic desires, and sexual attractions to Twilight. At this point Iíve met three or perhaps even as many as four other individuals who I fear feel the same way about Twilight that I do. I tell myself thereís no way they can, what I feel for her is special and unique and thereís no one in the world who could love her as I do. That's what I try to tell myself at least. I find myself feeling possessive of her, even jealous. When I read other peopleís romantic thoughts about her I feel threatened, and more than that angry. I tend to be a very calm and cool person, it really takes a lot to rattle me. But when I read other people say that Twilight is their waifu, or that they love her, or that they have sexual desires for her it just enrages me. Theyíre trying to express their feelings and their love and what I get from it is,

ďHey Jin, about your wife. I am so in love with her and I like to have sex with her in XYZ ways. And she loves me too and I fuck her all the time.Ē

I donít know if Iíve ever in my life experienced anger and jealousy like Iíve been having the past couple days, and itís just eating me up inside. In most relationships this sort of situation would be easy to sort out. You go to whoever is sleeping your wife and you do what any primate has done for millenniums to protect their mate. You beat the shit out of the motherfucker who is fucking your woman and tell them that if they ever try to pull any shit like this again youíre going to put their head on a goddamn pike. Mind you I have never encountered this situation in any other relationship Iíve had, no one has ever cheated on me, and I tend to avoid conflict whenever possible so I have a hard time seeing myself doing something like that. However, thatís pretty much what Iíd like to do every time I read about someone elseís affections for Twilight Sparkle.

Itís the fundamental nature of the human mind to try and protect their partner from anyone who might want to take her away. Humans have done this for as long as we have existed, a simple matter of ďGet away from her. Sheís mine and Iím not going to shareĒ. The mere idea of anyone else having relations with my partner not only causes great rage within me, but even worse feels like it invalidates my love for Twilight. Because when I read about other peopleís feelings for Twilight itís not them saying

ďIím in love with Jinís wife and Iíd like to fuck her.Ē

But rather itís them saying

ďIím in love with Twilight, sheís my wife, and I am fucking her.Ē

So we come back to the matter of fidelity. Iíve dedicated myself heart, mind, and body entirely to Twilight Sparkle. But when other people come along saying such things it really feels like one of two things are going on...

1. The person in question is completely full of shit and is an asshole I should despise for making up such horrible lies about my wife.

Or

2. Twilight is in fact cheating on me and fucking all these other assholes on the side.


The truth of the matter is that neither of these situations are true. Since Twilight Sparkle is a fictional character and a public figure there will be many other people like me out there who have romantic feelings for her and there is no way for hers to be mine and mine alone. Itís simply impossible. However, in my heart and mind my relationship with her FEELS very real. She FEELS like a real unique and singular individual to me, and the one that is in fact my partner. So when I read about someone else loving my girl and/or sleeping with my girl it pisses me off like nothing else Iíve ever experienced. Just the simple fact that thereís other people out there having affections for the one I consider to be my wife and mentally fucking my wife fills me with a kind of rage thatís almost blinding. Itís the worst when I see people talking about treating Twilight in ways that I know she shouldnít be treated. Biting her, pulling her tail, spanking her, hurting her, and even going so far as to pretend that she likes that kind of shit. Sheís a delicate flower of a mare who deserves to be treated with the utmost kindness and tenderness, and these motherfuckers donít even deserve to be able to look at her let alone do these kind of horrible things to her. Iíd like to cut their eyelids off and gouge their eyes out with lit cigars for even thinking this shit.

But none of this is real. Twilight isnít real, and she isnít mine no matter how much I might wish she was or how much my heart believes she is. My relationship with her is a fantasy conjured up in my mind just like it is in the minds of everyone else out there who has affection for her. So now Iím the asshole for being jealous and feeling the need to protect my woman. Iím the douche-bag who canít let other people have their own happiness. Iím the crazy piece of shit who canít separate fantasy from reality. And I hate myself for all of it.

With all the logic and reason the human mind is capable of I know that Twilight isnít real, I know sheís not actually my wife, and I know that there is absolutely nothing harmful to me or this fictional character I love about anyone else having any kind of romantic or sexual fantasies they want about her. But no matter how much I try to rationalize it I canít help but feel horrible jealousy and hatred every time I read about anyone elseís love for Twilight. It feels like either the person saying these things is the most horrible despicable liar in the world or that Twilight is actually cheating on me with these bastards. And since all these people seem so sincere Iím tending to most depressingly feel like the latter of the two is true.


Needless to say Iím feeling pretty fucked up right about now. These feelings of hatred and jealousy I canít seem to let go of are really making all the pure and beautiful love Iíve felt for Twilight over the last 8 months feel like a lie. How can she love me and be mine if sheís the lover to all these other people as well? I canít make all these other people stop loving and fantasizing about Twilight, so what am I supposed to do? How do I make my heart let go of all this and just go back to being secure in my love for her like I have been for so long?

Has anyone else faced these sort of situations where you felt jealous and insecure about your love because there are other people out there who feel the same way about a character you love? How did you reconcile this and learn to be okay other people loving your fictional partner? I really need to find out how to learn to accept this, because itís eating me up inside horribly. I canít help but feel like there has to be the right words out there somewhere, and if I just read them Iíll be able to make my heart come to understand the logic of my mind and everything will be fine again. But I havenít read those words yet, and I donít want to have to hate people that could be good friends anymore.

I want to be able to hold my Twilight plushie in my arms again and feel happy. Feel secure in the fact that I love her and she loves me, and that weíre a couple who are loyal and true to each other. I donít want to carry around the weight of this doubt and negativity anymore. But I havenít been happy, and when I hold Twilight in my arms and kiss her my heart aches because I feel like sheís not really mine... and I just need so badly to feel like she is again.

What am I supposed to do?
memedumpster
Just pretend they're all clones.

TimidAres
Stop watching a kids' show and cease contact with it's hideous fanbase?
Nominal
A year ago, after reading 3 separate stories how Zoe Quinn claimed there was a big harassment conspiracy against her in 3 separate projects, I kind of got the impression she tilted towards the bipolar pathological liar end of the spectrum. Who would have seen it coming from a person whose claim to fame was something called Depression Quest, right?

Cheating and lying is shitty, but jesus christ the dude should have seen it coming and broken it off 10,000% sooner than he did. It's hard to feel any empathy for him. I guess everyone has to have one really bad relationship they try to keep going before they learn from their mistakes, but like chicken pox the later in life it happens the worse it is.

I don't get why he fucking cataloged and published it in such an obsessive drama queen fashion though. It's shitty she cheated and has a compulsive lying problem, but why go public? I could understand if she burned him in some way outside of the relationship, but I'm not seeing that.

The real assholes in this are the indie devs and game journalists twittering about the whole thing, the usual suspects of kotaku, polygon, and that fellow meltdown drama queen Phil fucking Fish.
Nominal
Though there are stories floating around how Zoe does pull shitty ruining SJW antics on others. I have no idea how true this claim is:

http://i.imgur.com/Gy2n50g.png

Quad9Damage
I read over the entire blog. He states that he went public with this to save her other potential partners the same heartache and burning, as Zoe Quinn appears to have deep-seated psychological issues she's either unable or unwilling to get treated. As to whether this justifies the obsessive cataloging I will say no, because the Internet is too public of a bus to throw someone under no matter how shitty of a human being they are.

Still, it was interesting to read this and compare it to the "don't let evil men get you down, you go girl!" back patting from Sarkeesian and others of the same Internet ilk.

spikestoyiu
This woman sounds like a lunatic and her "game" looks fucking terrible. Thank goodness I'm a casual gaming "peasant" and the worst thing I have to worry about is an eleven-year-old calling me a "faggot".
memedumpster
Dear readers, please don't confuse the "gamers are the worst people since Nazis" side of poeTV with the "these schizophrenics can't even get reality down enough to be dead wrong" side of poeTV.

Eventually, there will be signs placed.
dairyqueenlatifah
I love how you guys are all "FIVE STARS FUCK YEAH!" when its Anita Sarkeesian baseless claims bullshit, but when its a legitimate examination of the gaming press, complete with evidence behind it you're all like "pff, video game drama, what children. *eyeroll* Lets one star it into oblivion."

Fuck everything.
Spaceman Africa
Did you miss your nap or something?

dairyqueenlatifah
I don't take naps. Naps are for girls.

John Holmes Motherfucker
>>when its Anita Sarkeesian baseless claims bullshit,

Anita Sarkeesian's videos are basically opinion pieces, and opinion pieces don't need as much documentation as accusations of actual wrongdoing that effect the lives of strangers and stories we can't really know. You either know this, DQL, or you're a lot dumber than I took you for.

>>but when its a legitimate examination of the gaming press, complete with evidence behind it you're all like "pff, video game drama, what children. *eyeroll* Lets one star it into oblivion."

I don't know what evidence there is besides a wrathful blogpost from an ex-lover, but here's two paragraphs from an editorial. I can't vouch for the facts given, but the ones about what was published should be easy to check.

http://kotaku.com/in-recent-days-ive-been-asked-several-times- about-a-pos-1624707346

>>On March 31, Nathan published the only Kotaku article he's written involving Zoe Quinn. It was about Game Jam, a failed reality show that Zoe and other developers were upset about being on. At the time, Nathan and Zoe were professional acquaintances. He quoted blog posts written by Zoe and others involved in the show. Shortly after that, in early April, Nathan and Zoe began a romantic relationship. He has not written about her since. Nathan never reviewed Zoe Quinn's game Depression Quest, let alone gave it a favorable review.

>>Given the information available to us both from Nathan and all sources presented online, I have no reason to believe any further action need be taken. The situation is fraught for all involved, including our readers, whose trust is paramount; inquiry is always welcome.

The God of Biscuits
Who gives a fuck
Aelric
Vampires vs. Werewolves. No good guys. Bad movie.
Aelric
Hurm

NancyDrewFan123
This dude she was dating got owned hard. I hope he continues to be owned over and over again and has to keep posting 5000 word investigative pieces on every internet forum about the NEW girl that shamed him, forever and ever, Amen.
Scrimmjob
Yeah, all the ensuing e drama aside, this guy is a little bitch.

John Holmes Motherfucker
Halfway through the post he writes something like PLEASE STOP HARRASING HER. THAT ISN'T WHAT I INTENDED; IT HELPS NO ONE. or words to that effect. He's shocked... SHOCKED that people responded in this way.

Any woman who ever touches this guy's dick ever again is even dumber than he is.

American Standard
The ex is shit for airing dirty laundry. The woman is shit for cheating. Nobody wins except the shrieking monkeys desperate to spin this into evidence to support opinions they already had.
Sudan no1
Neckbeards got mad at a girl again and they can't get their dicks wet to save their lives, news at 11.
Sudan no1
neckbeards.
Sudan no1
NECKBEARDS EVERYWHERE
Caminante Nocturno
The important thing to remember is that a complete lack of professional or personal integrity does not trump a declaration of victimhood.
Caminante Nocturno
Also, Five Guys makes some of the finest burgers and fries on the East Coast, and they do not deserve to have their good named dragged into this.

John Holmes Motherfucker
Here's your sense of entitlement, or maybe it's just a fucked up sense of priorities, or maybe it's just being a sociopath: A comment from an article i found

http://discussion.theguardian.com/comment-permalink/40232405

>>Death threats via Twitter aren't a big deal.

>>All they've done is deflect the argument away from the real problem at hand, the evident corruption that lies at the heart of video games journalism.

And there you have it. Here's where (some of) these gamer shitbags can eat a bag of cool ranch flavored flavored dicks.

Anita Sarkeesian reported in her TED talk that when gamers talked about silencing her, they called it "the game" The attitude is that threatening someone's life is a game, any real or perceived threat to the game (someone criticizes it in a youtube video) is a threat to my life. This really goes beyond misogyny, it's more like losing touch with reality.

Caminante Nocturno
The big problem with those reactions, death threats included, is that these particular hacks can hide behind them whenever any sort of criticism is leveled against them or what they're doing. Hell, you're doing it for them right now.

You gigantic sap.

Caminante Nocturno
I'm also going to restate that Five Guys does not deserve this kind of publicity.

EvilHomer
Five Guys makes good burgers, if you're in the mood for moderately priced chainjoint burgers. However, there are definitely better burger places on the East Coast.

EvilHomer
(I am very partial to Ted's Restaurant in Meriden, famous for its Steamed Hams (which are actually steamed, not grilled). Louis' Lunch, near Yale, is also very good, but a little pricier and a lot more pretentious.)

Caminante Nocturno
While looking up Elevation Burger, I was quite surprised to discover that they have several locations in the Middle East.

Anyway, Elevation makes a decent burger, too. Not so much the fries, though.

John Holmes Motherfucker
Five minutes in. What this looks like to me is that he's going to spend the next ninety minutes in a convoluted attempt to link a simple Fuckola scandal to discussions of sexism that "attack the audience". This looks like a fun ride, but I may not get around to taking it.
John Holmes Motherfucker
>>The big problem with those reactions, death threats included, is that these particular hacks can hide behind them whenever any sort of criticism is leveled against them or what they're doing. Hell, you're doing it for them right now.

>>You gigantic sap.

Yes, I see your point. The big problem with death threats and harassment is that it allows them to escape criticism. That's why NO ONE EVER DARES to criticize Anita Sarkeesian or Zoe Quinn. And it's all the fault of degenerate white knights like me, so blinded with sexual desperation that we think mere people are somehow more important than games.

Fuck you, you little sociopath. I hope the earth opens up to swallow your gaming console, your computer, your smart phone, and your tablet.
Caminante Nocturno
That little "Reply" button is a real brain teaser for you, isn't it? Or did I just get you too upset to respond properly?

What you are so rabidly defending is exactly on the same level as Fox News and its ilk, only with a different flavor of self-serving bullshit coating it.

Only babies eat hot dogs.

John Holmes Motherfucker
>>What you are so rabidly defending is exactly on the same level as Fox News and its ilk, only with a different flavor of self-serving bullshit coating it.

Actually, when I say "Fuck you, you littlle sociopath." I'm not defending anyone. I'm attacking YOU. If there's anything else you need explained, please don't hesitate to let me know.

>>Only babies eat hot dogs.

Said the little boy who didn't like anyone talking smack about his toys.

You know, this is fun, but on some level, I agree with you. Harassment, threats, and over-the-top vilification do interfere with thoughtful legitimate criticism, and that's a shame. It occurs to me, Nocturno, that you're probably stupid enough that you assume that I don't think any criticism of Anita Sarkeesian's boring, pedantic videos is valid. It's just that, not being a sociopath, I care more about actual people, their safety, security, and basic rights.

What makes you such an asshole isn't that you want to criticize Sarkeesian, it's that you don't have enough sense to blame the death threateners for fucking things up, and instead you blame the people who oppose death threats. Too bad. I don't think we're going to make a lot of progress.

EvilHomer
Once again, Mr Holmes, there's a difference between death threats and death threats. If you can't tell the difference between legitimate, credible threats, and innocent smack talking, then you're part of the problem. You're promoting a culture of fear and over-reaction, which, ironically, does have serious, sometimes deadly, real-world consequences - such as the militarization of our police force, and the rather insane idea that SWAT teams can be called on ten year old gamers, with no other reaction than "Whoops, our bad".

Nobody is in favor of death threats. What people are, is opposed to hyperbole and histrionic fear-mongering.

By the way, happy 9/11!

Caminante Nocturno
Any way you want to try to frame it, it's still just self-righteous blowhards (like you) masturbating their egos in the most graceless way possible.

Caminante Nocturno
http://tinyurl.com/muhdps3

John Holmes Motherfucker
>>Once again, Mr Holmes, there's a difference between death threats and death threats. If you can't tell the difference between legitimate, credible threats, and innocent smack talking, then you're part of the problem.

Fuck you, Homer. There's no such thing as a "legitimate" death threat, and there's no such thing as an "innocent" death threat. Nobody's thretening me, so my ability to discern is not an issue, but nobody should have to take up their mental space with sorting out who wants the kill them and who doesn't.

>>Any way you want to try to frame it, it's still just self-righteous blowhards (like you) masturbating their egos in the most graceless way possible.

Yeah, that's right, this is all about ME. You are dumber than a box of dirt.

EvilHomer
>>nobody should have to take up their mental space with sorting out who wants the kill them and who doesn't.

You know, Mr Holmes, most people don't have that problem. Not because they never get threatened, but because they've got enough street smarts and common sense to know the difference between credible threats and imaginary ones. If *you* don't, then that's not our problem; it's yours.

Question: were you always like this? Or is this one of those cases where, as the old man sinks into senility, he becomes irrationally terrified of all the neighborhood teenagers, with their leather jackets and loud rock n roll?

EvilHomer
For example, you just said "Fuck you, Homer".

To me, that sounds like a rape threat. You want me to get fucked, against my will. Now, I shouldn't have to take up my mental space sorting out who wants me to get raped and who doesn't, but we're going to go by your standards and just assume that this threat, any threat, is both credible and actionable.

So what should we do to you, Mr Holmes? You're clearly a threat to our safety and security.

John Holmes Motherfucker
>>You know, Mr Holmes, most people don't have that problem. Not because they never get threatened, but because they've got enough street smarts and common sense to know the difference between credible threats and imaginary ones. If *you* don't, then that's not our problem; it's yours.

>>Question: were you always like this?

Homer, EVERYONE is like this! We've had this discussion before, and I remember how naively simple-minded and extreme you were about this, and I also remember that you were firmly in the minority. A death threat is not a legitimate form of discourse. It's not witty banter, It's not a joke, and it's not constitutionally protected speech.

It's a crime. I know you don't agree with it being a crime, but it totally fucking is.

John Holmes Motherfucker
>>For example, you just said "Fuck you, Homer".

>>To me, that sounds like a rape threat. You want me to get fucked, against my will. Now, I shouldn't have to take up my mental space sorting out who wants me to get raped and who doesn't, but we're going to go by your standards and just assume that this threat, any threat, is both credible and actionable.

>>So what should we do to you, Mr Holmes? You're clearly a threat to our safety and security.

You should suck my dick.

Caminante Nocturno
Oh, no! John Holmes got so angry, that he forgot to check his privilege!

At least he figured out how to use the site's reply function properly.

EvilHomer
More rape threats. Credibler and credibler.

Have you been playing video games?


>>A death threat is not a legitimate form of discourse. It's not witty banter, It's not a joke, and it's not constitutionally protected speech.

"Wit" has never been a metric used to determine what speech is protected. And actually, Mr Holmes, threats often ARE constitutionally protected! Threats are only considered unprotected if they are deemed to be "true threats". Hence why you're being dumb.

http://www2.law.ucla.edu/volokh/rothman.htm

Again, people like you are a huge part of this growing problem, and unless you'd like to turn yourself in to the authorities for posting rape threats online (NOT LEGITIMATE DISCOURSE), then in the name of consistency and intellectual honesty, you must re-evalaute your commitment to the hyper-modern principle of "security over freedom".

John Holmes Motherfucker
>>Again, people like you are a huge part of this growing problem, and unless you'd like to turn yourself in to the authorities for posting rape threats online (NOT LEGITIMATE DISCOURSE), then in the name of consistency and intellectual honesty, you must re-evalaute your commitment to the hyper-modern principle of "security over freedom".

"Hyper-modern?" It's like I'm watching you get more stupid.

This is not a recent development. Issuing threats has always been a crime. You don't have the "freedom" to break into other people's houses, either.

>>Because "Fuck You" is a rape threat.

http://youtu.be/hLEG9QYyuUY

>>Oh, no! John Holmes got so angry, that he forgot to check his privilege!

Oh, No! Caminante Nocturno got so angry he's resorting to Evil Homer's lame-ass tactics!

http://youtu.be/hLEG9QYyuUY







>>

EvilHomer
>>Issuing threats has always been a crime.

No, it hasn't. John, we literally just discussed this! Olde literally! I know short-term memory loss is common amongst people like you, but please, focus. Under constitutional law, only true, credible threats are considered a crime.

http://www2.law.ucla.edu/volokh/rothman.htm

You can call the law stupid all you want, it's not going to change the facts.

Now please stop rape-threatening me or I will call the internet police on you. And they will arrest you and throw you in prison, just as they have done to everyone who's ever said anything mean to you on Youtube.

John Holmes Motherfucker
John Holmes Motherfucker
Homer, you keep talking to me about "innocent smack talk" without providing any examples, or applying it to anything anybody is saying. We're talking about death threats. There is such a thing as innocent smack talk. There's no such thing as innocent death threats.

Somebody posted a message to Anita Sarkeesian saying that he would kill her and rape her corpse with a metal pipe. Now, are you claiming that is innocent smack talk? Because if you are, you are wrong and you should STFU. If you're NOT claiming that's innocent smack talk, then the concept of "innocent smack talk" is not relevant, and you should STFU anyway.

Aelric
I miss Roachbud

John Holmes Motherfucker
I actually prefer the hot dogs at Five Guys, though a hot dog, fries, and coke actually cost me more than nine dollars.
Pillager
Free peanuts & the massive amount of fries makes up for that.

John Holmes Motherfucker
I'd like to take a shit on your xbox, and fuck your playstation with a crowbar.
EvilHomer
Well, now you're threatening to break into people's homes AND threatening destruction of property. You're racking up a pretty mean rapsheet here, John. You'll be looking at twenty to life. Hope you've got a good lawyer.

John Holmes Motherfucker
the burgers are a little too well done for my taste.
John Holmes Motherfucker
Homer, you keep talking to me about "innocent smack talk" without providing any examples, or applying it to anything anybody is saying. We're talking about death threats. There is such a thing as innocent smack talk. There's no such thing as innocent death threats.

Somebody posted a message to Anita Sarkeesian saying that he would kill her and rape her corpse with a metal pipe. Now, are you claiming that is innocent smack talk? Because if you are, you are wrong and you should STFU. If you're NOT claiming that's innocent smack talk, then the concept of "innocent smack talk" is not relevant, and you should STFU anyway.

John Holmes Motherfucker
>>Once again, Mr Holmes, there's a difference between death threats and death threats. If you can't tell the difference between legitimate, credible threats, and innocent smack talking, then you're part of the problem.

Seeing the irony now.
John Holmes Motherfucker
John Holmes Motherfucker
Homer, you keep talking to me about "innocent smack talk" without providing any examples, or applying it to anything anybody is saying. We're talking about death threats. There is such a thing as innocent smack talk. There's no such thing as innocent death threats.

Somebody posted a message to Anita Sarkeesian saying that he would kill her and rape her corpse with a metal pipe. Now, are you claiming that is innocent smack talk? Because if you are, you are wrong and you should STFU. If you're NOT claiming that's innocent smack talk, then the concept of "innocent smack talk" is not relevant, and you should STFU anyway.
John Holmes Motherfucker
Caminante Nocturno was right. The reply button IS a brain teaser for me.
Pillager
Thank you for keeping this thread alive.

John Holmes Motherfucker
You're welcome, but I meant to post that in another thread. I just came back here to find out who had said that the reply button was a brain teaser for me.

Nominal
Ha ha, JHM lost his mind (even more than usual) with this.
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