|The Mothership |
Oh man, you think with that first overly-long and poorly-delivered diatribe that it's going to calm down - but no. It just keeps getting crazier and crazier.
Except for the regulations preventing monopolies, I'm all down with that, BNP.
|Maggot Brain |
British culture; what the fuck is that?
|The God of Biscuits |
Needs fascism tag
Sooo other than "militant homosexuals", can someone explain to me why this is insane? Immigration in England IS out of control. Corporations and bankers DO hold monopolies on entire populations of people.
English culture IS being erased.
In 40 years, England will be no different than any other middle eastern country, and will probably be called "Britanistan" at that point. The same goes for most European countries.
What's wrong with having a national identity?
Can only white people be racist?
Rampant multiculturalism is a disease.
That was part of it.
But surely it has nothing to do with the untold thousands of immigrants that move in every year, some undocumented.
These people refuse to assimilate to the host countries' culture and take jobs from the native's already strangled economy.
You cant even recognize some parts of london anymore, its a sea of burkas. I can garuntee you that some parts of england will adopt Shariah law within the next few decades.
One only has to look at Sweden to see how nightmarish multiculturalism and white guilt can really be.
If others cannot be ashamed to celebrate their culture and heritage, then neither will I.
I think you meant "white" culture.
White people are the root of every problem throughout history, yet were expected to fix everything as well.
I hope your wish comes true, because if we are gone, youll have no one left to blame.
Youll miss us after we leave.
They're white supremacists whose definition of "our culture" is the same ignorant nonsense every generation of close minded people spouts. Culture is always changing, trying to keep that from happening by discriminating against everyone not like you is a stupid idea.
"What's wrong with having a national identity? "
It's wrong when defining it to exclude people not like you, trying to take away the rights of people in the nation to be different.
"Can only white people be racist?"
Nope. But you might have noticed there's a strong association between people who complain about being labeled racists, and racists.
"Rampant multiculturalism is a disease."
Basically proving the point. I've never heard anyone say that who wasn't a bigot. No, multiculturalism isn't a disease, it's where your culture, whatever it is, came from. Cultures are not homogeneous and unchanging.
"If others cannot be ashamed to celebrate their culture and heritage, then neither will I."
Between the Olympics and the Jubilee, there's been worldwide coverage the last few years of pride in British culture and heritage. You might notice those events didn't define it as excluding people from different ethnic backgrounds, and paranoid fears about Muslims taking over.
I hope youre right, IrishWhiskey, I really do.
Islam will conquer the world, Insh'Allah.
The Romans were inclusively multi-cultural, and look what happened to them!
Rodents of Unusual Size
Apart from the overt racism, the part where assume that immigrants are responsible for British debt as well as "heartless Zionists" is pretty fucking insane. Because it assumes Jews are trying to destroy white culture as part of some long reaching scheme.
Its just as easy to assimilate to British culture as it is to create a pocket-Pakistan in east London.
These people never had the intention of adopting our culture. They come here seeking a better life and asylum from their respective countries, which our government gladly gives, and then proceed to go about business as usual. They dont want England, they want Pakistan, Syria, Somalia, and Lebanon. Soon enough you have entire blocks that the bobbies wont even patrol because crime is so common. Many of them cant even speak proper english. Countless are on welfare.
Just last week there was a huge buzz on the news because a few dozen young men donning black ski masks were handing out pamphlets in city squares, calling for a violent revolution to establish a new caliphate in Britain.
Thousands of white britons have been fleeing this land, this started only a few years ago. They no longer recognize the nation they came from. So many of them dont even recognize the neighborhoods they grew up in.
I cant convince you to see as I see, you already have your minds made up. Everyone is entitled to thier own opinion.
I want to add that the immigrants that moved here during the labor shortages, in the 40s and 50s, are a-okay. Their modern descendants are 2nd or 3rd generation. They talk british, they act british, they eat, breathe, and sleep the british way. They work hard.
Some of the Indians and South Africans Ive met are some of the most tireless people you will ever meet.
This new wave of immigration produces nothing of the sort. These people will take every sort of handout they can get, and have no respect for the existing culture, or in some cases, the law. Even the older breed of foreigners are confused and repulsed by them.
This isnt about brown vs white. As far as I know, people of foreign heritage are welcome to join the BNP, as long as they recognize, respect, and adopt our way of things.
Its about keeping England english.
I cant believe some of you would willing support the eradication of over 500 years of unique and proud history with just a few decades of unbridled immigration. Americans are used to the whole "melting pot" thing though, I guess.
But hey, one love, one heart, one world, right?
If it makes your food taste less like shit, eradicate away!
Miss Henson's 6th grade class
I'm sorry, but the English culture you treasure would have been impossible without the revenue and materiel provided by the Empire that's so fondly remembered by British conservatives. Of course, it wasn't sustainable in the long run, but it's ridiculous to think that Britain was every really an isolated place, like feudal Japan. Without those brown people you'd rather not see in London, the London you know would not exist. This doesn't mean that there aren't issues relating to assimilation of immigrants whose ideas are markedly non-Western, but a people who attempted to impose their way of doing things on a fourth of humanity should probably not complain when the slightly Britishized descendants of those people show up on their doorstep.
An Englishman whining about foreigners trying to destroy centuries of another country's culture.
I hope I'm not the only one who appreciates the irony.
The Romans were wiped out by mass migrations of barbarians, BorrowedSolution. It might be a better comparison than you think.
HIGHLIGHTS OF 500 YEARS OF UNIQUE AND PROUD HISTORY:
"Hey, let's go colonize and/or slaughter those brown people."
THIS HAS BEEN, HIGHLIGHTS OF 500 YEARS OF UNIQUE AND PROUD HISTORY.
Co-existing with another culture does not destroy your own, unless that other culture takes drastic steps to make this happen. And if anyone is an expert on destroying cultures, it's the British.
Maybe the reason racist white folks are so down on multiculturalism is because they're afraid minorities will treat them the way they've always treated minorities.
The empire was great, we brought modern civilization and commerce to those people.
When the United States is inevitably turned into New New Mexico and various other Latin states, youll see what Im talking about.
But noooo, noone listen to the racist turdburgalar.
commerce didn't exist before Britain spread it around like an STD!
Not in the capacity that we brought them, no.
East India Trade was one of the best things to happen to them.
So weve gone from "BNP is crazy and none of these problems exist," to "Ok this stuff is happening but the limeys deserve it."
What happened, poetv? Remember when we used to just wank over animals, science porn, and weirdos on the internet?
Now every third video has to be made about racism and tumblr-tier bollocks.
We've come a long way in 8 years.
The german military, as you are thinking, will never exist again. All of the remnants of Prussian militarism were swept away after ww2.
The next time there is a conquest from Germany, it will be to form a new caliphate.
"Rampant multiculturalism is a disease." Oh dear.
Nah, just kidding, Mr Ares. Fuck the Welsh. The English race is the best race on earth.
BNP 4evah!!! BlackShirtz 14/88!!!
You do understand that Great Britain, or rather England, conquered half the world, right? Part of the imperial strategy was to anglicise those that they conquered.
No matter where you were, you were one of Her Majesty's subjects. This is difficult for Americans to understand, since we have a pretty much "You're American or You Ain't" philosophy as evidenced by our citizenship requirements. This is in part because it is our democratic ideology that bonds us together, it is the experiment that defines our nationality. Unlike England, where it was one's oath to the throne that made you English.
The English created this future for themselves. My mother is heartbroken to see her old neighborhoods now unrecognizably Pakistani and Indian and Jamaican, but it's hardly the end of the world. People will endure, the children of the immigrants will change England and England will change them. Dr. Who will one day be cast not only as a Scotsman but as a Pakistani with an eloquent Cambridge accent, and nobody will bat an eye.
Englishness will change, as it always has changed, it's just changing in a more pronounced way and at a much more rapid pace than per usual. England will not become Englandistan, there are just too many forces at play, but even if it did, it wouldn't be the first time Britain went through a religious schism and came through the other side. Over all, it's become a much more tolerant and interesting place.
Multiculturalism is not even a new phenomenon. In fact, some of the greatest periods of history in an intellectual and cultural sense are defined by widespread multiculturalism.
Rodents of Unusual Size
baleen, excellent post
I once met this Fijian nurse that had lived in England for years before relocating to America. She said once that people who believed immigrants didn't belong in the UK didn't realize how British those people really were. Which kind of sums up the thinking of a lot of countries in the Commonwealth. There is a longstanding cultural link to Britain and whether you want to debate the merit of it for good or bad, that stamp is still very much present in many parts of the world.
As someone who moved from Alabama to Grimsby and have always had influences from both cultures, I love British culture. I adore garden parties, feeble attempts to make the shittiest beaches into tourist hotspots, the NHS, the Jobcentre, parliament being able to affect change albeit only marginally faster than American government. None of those things are perfect, but they are things that I have grown attached to since being here and comparing them to things America lacked when I needed them.
I love all of those things and they are the most striking elements of British culture that came to my mind first, and looking at them not a single one is tainted by immigration or banks.
It's Islam now, but it was the Polish before. And what people seem to forget is that Islam has been here for a hell of a long time, except that BNP/UKIP people don't seem to count the Indian families that have been here for generations.
I am amazed after seeing first hand how much more racist Britain is than Alabama, and it's incredibly depressing.
Stars for ignorance.
You're right, it is a very apt comparison in certain ways. Of course, the Roman Empire was already in a state of fiscal and ideological decline by the time the barbarians showed up to deal the finishing blows so putting the blame on the filthy foreigners is a very simplistic and reductionary viewpoint.
The barbarian influx was a symptom of their decline, not a cause. So, same thing as Britain, really. It seems like you and TimidAres are completely blind to the fact that British culture thrived during the imperialistic age, brought all the resources home, and is now 'under attack' by people who are smart enough to follow the goods to their destination. For anybody with an ounce of sense and compassion, this is completely normal behaviour and anybody complaining about it is either ignorant, a racist, or both.
The same thing is happening in the us, if im not mistaken.
Except a lot of those "barbarians" were white people. See? Whites fuck everything up.
Damn right! Militant gay capitalist communist Muslim Jews MUST BE STOPPED.
Just more irresponsible youth.
That's a whole lotta ugly.
these are the same people who complain when welsh and scottish people are on tv. being white isn't good enough.
People who support a Caliphate in britain really can go fuck themselves.
Dont worry, itll happen. Just like its happening in France, Germany, Belgium, Sweden, Finland, Italy, Austria, and a few others I probably dont want to know about. Mainland Europe is getting the same treatment from the EU.
Germanic places are getting mostly Turks and Somalians, but the principle is the same.
Poland and Russia wont put up with their shit, so migration isnt really bad there. Many slavic countries are the same way, but they are also pretty poor in some places, and I think that reminds the immigrants too much of home, so they keep moving.
I for one would love to see a Caliphate in Britain. It couldn't be any worse than the surveillance-loving Euro-slobbing technocrats you've got in power now.
|Jet Bin Fever |
I mean who WOULDN'T want to hang out with cool kids like this!?!
I was with them until "MILITANT HOMOSEXUALS".
These are all valid concerns that need to be seriously addressed. Shame about all that anti-everyone-who-isn't-white platform their party is running on.
Oh, and the "Heartless Zionist" bit, and the blaming all the country's debt on immigrants. I missed those the first time I watched it.
Oh, and to the guy who said:
"As far as I know, people of foreign heritage are welcome to join the BNP, as long as they recognize, respect, and adopt our way of things."
Nope, the BNP is white Brits only. Even a black Black Brit who's family has been there for 10 generations can't join the BNP because he's not white.
To quote Greg Proops: "Seek out the swarthy-skinned almond-eyed people. I think you’ll find them a refreshing dip in the gene pool."
|pyslexic dharmacist |
I've never seen kids who so richly deserve all the bullying they must get. I'd beat them up myself just to make them admit to the existence of violent white people.
|pyslexic dharmacist |
I was thinking the difference in lighting was supposed to make them appear more diverse, but that's probably just one more thing on the long list of fascist fail.
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