Genesis does what Nintendon't. The Genesis had the advantage of blast processing, the SNES just couldn't keep up.

The Genesis had the advantage of being complete shit. The sound was tinny, the graphics were faded, the non-ergonomic controller was short by four buttons, and the games library sucked. When your best series is ChrisChan's beloved Sonic the fucking Hedgehog, you know your system has problems.

Nintendo won the console war for a reason. Sega was the WCW to Nintendo's WWF.

That Monday Night War reference doesn't really fit. WWE Bought out WCW, in the 16 bit wars SNES outsold Genesis by a slight margin. Nintendo didn't bring down Sega, Sony did. Also you completely ignored the Blast Processor.
The controller it came with was short of buttons, but I bought the 6 button ones. Those were the perfect controllers for Street Fighter.
Sonic games were good back then and Sonic was loved by people other than CWC.

The small minority of friends I've had over the years who swore by Genesis have all been pretty weird in one way or another.

The Genesis version of Shaq Fu has 5 playable characters and 3 stages more than the SNES version. Plus, the yellow tab on the Genesis EA cartridge contains some of Shaq's blood .

I swear by genesis, always have. While SNES has some better stats (which babbies like evilhomer love to bring up), and some way better side by side comparisons (sf2). I still think genesis had a better library, as a PC kid they delivered with some great updated versions of games like starflight, buck rogers: countdown to doomsday, and mega turrican.

At the end of the day it's a matter of opinion. I have been defending the faith since this arguement meant anything (probably never), and I'm sick of it, because it has been the exact same argument for the last 20 years.

There are great games for both consoles, anyone who tells you different is a retard.

This urinal seems like it would get disgusting in no time at all.

First time I saw this I thought that was Super Metroid in the middle. The Super Tennis on the side was a pretty good game though. This is a good idea. There's a barcade that I used to like going to when it was just cheap beer and pinball, but they remodeled it to make it look like Tron, and the bathrooms light up like Pac Man. You're not pissing in pac man's mouth (haven't seen the girl's bathroom) but there's LED toilets and a little trail of light pellets that lead you to the stall. Problem is, it's a barcade and most people turn out pissing on the walls by mistake because they're intoxicated. This seems like a much more practical way to drain the lizard. Except for Super Tennis. But hitting that basically means you should leave the bar anyway I suppose.

Ha, the Nintendo fanboys always shut up when you bring up the Blast Processor. Even Nintendo later adopted those into their systems. I know the Gamecube has one, otherwise it would not be able to handle the games on the Sonic Mega Collection, and the WII and WII U have blast processors so Sonic could appear in the Smash Brothers games.

So what Genesis games are worth getting? I recently acquired a friend's old Genesis and all it came with was a bunch of the later Sonic games, and holy hell are they awful.

Dude, blast processing was a marketing gimmick - unlike, say, Mode 7, which actually existed and really did provide Nintendo with the killing edge it used to take out Sega. And you know who else loved Sonic? Furries. Furries and Alix Henriol.

You're marking for a system whose fanbase consists entirely of ChrisChan, furries, and Alix Henriol. Shaq Fu could have FIFTY extra levels and it still wouldn't make up for the Genesuck's shortcomings.

Hot take: Genesis was as good as the SNES, the add-ons game-wise made it better

... and speaking of Chris, I guess he went on another rampage yesterday night, this time at WalMart.

While you kids were getting all excited about Mode 7 and Blast Processing, I was smoking bogies in full 3d (with textured polygons!). In the end, the PC always won.

fluffy- I mentioned a few in my first post that are IMO some of the best available. People always point to shining force 1&2, phantasy star 4, and gunstar heroes, these titles will usually cost way to much though. Shinobi 3, ranger x, beyond oasis, lightening force, cadash, chakan, contra: hard corps, eswat, general chaos, kid chameleon, mercs, rambo 3, either of the splatterhouse games, any of the strike games (jungle, urban, desert), and gain ground are all good, and can be found for a few bucks probably.

I remember the genesis Strider winning EGM's game of the year....never understood why the SNES didn't get a decent Strider...

This video resonated with me, I absolutely would never bother renting/buying a sports game...

Genesis had good beat em ups like Streets of Rage and Golden Axe, and also Toejam and Earl was amazing. Other than that not much

This goes for any old system: Don't buy old carts unless you want them for some weird collector-y type reason. All the good games are really expensive.

If you just want to play games, get an everdrive.

Super scope seems a bit out of place. I only played it at the toys r us but I remember it being pretty fun. I'm with Garcet though: my dad got to bring home his outdated computers when the office upgraded so I was always a bit behind, but I'd spend my Dairy Queen paycheck to get tie fighter to run properly on a 386. I feel bad because I hung out with this one kid just because he had Sonic2 and when I visited my grandma in Wisconsin she rented us a Sega cd combo with sonic cd. I spent most of the time playing that and Sewer Shark in my grandpa's bar and very little time with my grandma :(

Genesis had a bunch of gems, but SNES had all the breakthrough RPGs. Mortal Kombat was better on the Genesis. But you would much rather play a beat-em-up like TMNT on the super nintendo - for some reason the SNES versions of dual-console games usually had more content, mortal kombat being the exception.

I had both though, so I didn't have to choose!

PC gaming didn't start coming into its own until the release of Fallout, though. 1997, possibly 1996, was the earliest date at which PC gaming could be truly said to be superior to the console scene; well after the 16-bit era came to a close.

Mortal Kombat was the one game Sega got right. That victory was short-lived, however, because by MK II, the SNES port was clearly superior.

fallout? really?

In the beginning of the 80's PCs ruled gaming, the first wave of consoles were out of date. Sega and Nintendo were new to the North American market. The commie and the Atari ST could compete somewhat with the NES and master system. When everything went the way of IBM compatibles PC gaming took a hit for a while, but there is some gold in there too. The Amiga could compete with some of the stuff the 16 bit consoles were doing, but obviously it was a lot less popular, and less accessible.

*80s* PC gaming...?

NERD!!!!!


The earliest you could go for a decent PC gaming environment was 1996, 95 at a stretch. Prior to that, good PC games were few and far between, and almost all of them got ported to a console (as GOD intended) anyway, so who cares? It wasn't until Fallout that one could truly say, OK, now PCs are better than consoles.

In the *very* early 80s, PCs ruled gaming... because there weren't any consoles to speak of. From the NES on, though, PCs were just a backwater hick town.

All mortal kombat titles on the 16 bit systems were better on genesis.

idk man, wolf3d and alone in the dark came out in 92.

Wolfenstein is a perfect example of what I'm talking about! Good game, few and far between, was quickly ported to consoles. Compare and contrast to the late 90s, when you had this MASSIVE explosion of games like Fallout, Age of Empires, Red Alert, Mechwarrior 3, Myth TDA, Planescape Torment, Counterstrike etc, which were, for all practical purposes, PC exclusives. Doom was probably the last significant PC game that you might as well have just bought on a console; since then, it's been PC all the way.

well, wolfenstein 3d was ported to the snes, 3do and jaguar in 94. Chances are you played the snes version which was a bullshit watered down version, with worse graphics, slow gameplay, no blood, english speaking nazis, rats instead of dogs, no deathcam, no swastikas, no satanic hitler doubles, and probably some other stuff too.

Were we playing Wolfenstein for the gameplay, or the window dressing?

SNES did have a lot of very watered down games (MK1's lack of blood almost won the console wars for Genesis) and for the most part it's true about the PC: if you liked point and click adventures and Ultima like I did, then you were in luck, but being a kid with hand-me-down PCs that were slower, I never really felt like dropping what little money I had to upgrade my system on any of the new "Killer Apps" (like Wolf3D and Doom.) I had the demos but dropped the quality all the way down along with the screen to make it run somewhat properly, so I was very impressed with what they were able to do with both those games on the SNES compared to what I had. Especially Doom, which had the blood and everything. Warcraft 2 and Command and Conquer were my Fallouts, but although they were released in '95 I don't think I got either one until '96, around the time I was making more money so I could upgrade our system. PC gaming was also easier for "trading" instead of borrowing between me and my friends. Basically you'd have to be a huge dick if you lent someone game disks and then refused to give the password(s) in the manual, but you'd be understandably wary of lending someone a cartridge even if they were your best friend.

But I was always jealous of my friends with SNES, and spent many a sunny afternoon watching my friend play Crono Trigger and FF6, wishing I had them to myself so I could play and not just watch. Or play a fuckin' 2-player game..

I would go with my mom to work in the summer time because they had better computers, and I could play all the shareware games I couldn't play at home! Looking back her boss was pretty fucking cool for not giving a shit about that.

Also wolf3d without swastikas and hitler is like mario without bricks, mushrooms, pipes, plumbers, bowser, or a princess, but whatever I guess.

Yeah that's a good point. Also, were we on good terms with The Nazis in 1994? I understand that in a newly unified Germany they were trying to forget, and many a mother probably had to give the talk about a kid's grandfather, who was a willing executioner for Hitler, but was just following orders.. I'm not exactly sure how I'd explain that to a kid.. and the idea of seeing him or her shoot up a whole bunch of Grandpa may have been a sensitive issue. But the game was banned in Germany anyway, so it only applied to those who left.

Can't we just make a gold-plated urinal instead? It would be cheaper.

Yeah, they should've given the cartridges reproduction labels for Aero Fighters, Metal Warriors, and that Star Fox Blockbuster Competition game.

Mario Artist: Polygon Studio disks, please.

A sit-down toilet made of Tales of Phantasia, Oshaberi Parodius and Terranigma carts, and they should cherry-bomb it after taking a shit.

Don't forget Chrono Trigger.

Hagane. Great game, and so many levels of skill - if you REALLY knew what you were doing, you could make the game your bitch - but if you didn't know any of the tricks, boy were you in for a tough time.

I'll back Sanest Man Alive's plan as long as they wipe with torn up strips of enemy sheets from Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen SNES.

You mean when someone inevitably takes a crap in it, right?

Just blow into it. That will clean it up nicely.

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There was a Battletoads arcade machine too. Darker than any of the console games. And, of course, Battletoads vs Double Dragon.

Now the arcade game I liked! Nothing but brawler with the occasional twist. In other words, the fun first 2 levels of NES Battletoads before it went 100% impossible racing and platforming levels.

I remember the arcade Battletoads being surprisingly violent, which added to the awesomeness. What's weird is I didn't really have a problem with the racing levels in the NES one. They were frustrating as shit at first, but entirely pattern-based, so once you memorized it, it wasn't that hard. A game like Contra with unpredictable enemy movements (except for the bosses, of course) proved to be much harder to beat (without the 30 lives code, of course.)