Also I haven't seen one goddamn "condemnation" from the west when Ukrainian troops killed civilians in the east, more than a year they've been doing it, and not one fucking peep.

lol

yeah, yeah, you're still human garbage that revels in the death and misery of people that don't belong to your clan...we all get it.

Clan Rodriguez?

Hey SolRo, quick question. How much money is Putin's stock in Russian oil companies worth, approximately?

"ukies"

I thought Ukies were Hawaiian? They play them at luaus, right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_rocket_attacks_o n_Israel,_2014

I know you're really partisan on this, Sol, but the article you link has this under the headline, bigger than the body copy:

"Conflicting reports of who was responsible for mortar attack that killed at least eight in separatist stronghold"

If you have evidence the Guardian lacks, you might want to give them a call.

Yes, the Ukrainians say rebels attack their own cities...and you think that is credible?

So that would be a "no, I don't have any actual evidence," then?

Are you stupid? Look at the cluster munitions video I submited before, it has evidence that ukranians used those weapons on civilians. The ukranians still deny ever doing that.

This isn't an evidence issue, this is one side automatically blaming everything on "the Russians" because they know idiots like you will eat it up without question.

Cluster munitions bought from Russia and used by both sides in the conflict.

Russia is the world's foremost leader in cluster munitions - they are to Ivan what drones and Coca-Cola are to the US - so I'm still not sure why you think bringing up cluster munitions helps your case.

Where did I blame anyone? You're the one who posted an article claiming it's proof one side is guilty when the article clearly states that it's unknown who is guilty. That's what I pointed out, that you're the one who made a leap based on what you want to be true.

I have opinions on Russia's involvement, true, but unless I'm pointing to that Guardian article and saying it's proof the rebels fired it, I'm not the one who's presenting their opinions as facts.

in Russian, that says 'back up', the problem is that the machine translation of 'up' only has one meaning in Russian.

You just said a really lame video game combo.

hey at least I tried, Ivan

Fuck you too

aww, don't be like that Vitaly

Considering the instigating actor of this from the very start is America/NATO, you're asking the wrong question.

Russia's had an imperialist hardon for the Ukraine since the days of vikings and Mongols. Besides oil, Black Sea control, and the fact that the Ukraine has much hotter women than they do, Russia's main motivation is just to assuage its primitive bloodlust and prove it's still Alpha.

The hotter women motivation makes sense.

Lol, girl, like they would have ever gotten out of the hopper.

I just submitted them as a counterpoint to the multiple idiots with severe russophobia around here.