I'm guessing not since that last Andrew Dice Clay video.

Who?

Google him; you'll love it!

especially the parts where he talks about inserting his tongue into a strangers' anus!

HAHA it's JUST like southpark!

I failed.

if so called feminists really desired equality they wouldn't be feminists but egalitarians.

@ashtar, I'd agree if it were not for the fact such a statement can be just as under handed as feminist or mra. The problem isn't that the logic is wrong (which it isn't from a very base view) The problem is that it's meant to subdue with that very base view. You can still be an egalitarian AND a feminist. The fact that anyone believes that the two conflict on a logical basis is the biggest, short sighted conclusion anyone can make. In the end, it's something to work towards to where MRA's/Feminists become outdated terms, but it's no different than people telling minorities (or those protesting unfairness to minorities) that such acts do not help due to being inflammatory. The only reason I see people swallowing that chum is the occasional person crying out unnecessarily and toss off the concept rather than keeping vigilant in the back of their mind.

>>The fact that anyone believes that the two conflict on a logical basis is the biggest, short sighted conclusion anyone can make.

No. it's a lie, a bullshit propaganda talking point like the oft repeated chestnut about how giving homosexuals the same workplace protections as everyone else is "special rights".

In one of his videos, the Amazing Atheist poses next to a sign that says: "Feminism is the idea that we can make both sexes equal by focusing solely on the issues of one of them."

Is it? I support feminism, but I don't think it's going to "soley" solve the problems of both genders. We're going to have focus on men's issues as well, but that's not feminism. Feminism focuses on women's issues. That's perfectly legitimate, and there's a place for that.

From abolitionism to the women's suffrage movement, the anti-segregation protests of the sixties to the anti-apartheid movement to the present day struggle for marriage equality, civil rights movements have always focused on the problems of one group. It's either ignorant or disingenuous to act like this is some kind of aberration that is unique to feminism, and no one is that ignorant. Unless these people dropped out of school in the first grade, I have to conclude that it's a shifty, dishonest attempt to subvert and dilute the voice of feminism.

It's also pretty lame. The only appropriate response is derisive laughter.

A bland, generic unisex "equalist movment" is the vision of those dullards who take the concept of "equality" with a literness that borders on Asperger's. You see these douchebags in the YT comments, complaining about the "injustice" of different physical fitness standards for men and women movement, or that only women get maternity leave.

I think we need a women's movement, and a mens movement, and an overarching movement that is about fostering respect and cooperation between the two. If that seems unnecessarily complicated, considering the trainwreck/clusterfuck that we're all living through now.

Just to be clear, It's not that the epithet is offensive, although it certainly is. The bottom line is that, for me, "Feminazi" is a comedy killer. It was hateful and unfunny when I first heard Rush Limbaugh use it in 1992, and a quarter-century hasn't made it come off any fresher. It kills the humor, but leaves the jokes intact, sort of like a comedy neutron bomb. If you're stealing jokes from Rush Limbaugh, you're stealing some shitty jokes.

5 stars for offensive puke!

If you're giving out stars for offensive puke, look no further, but I like my offensive puke to be funny. People who enjoy having their prejudices reinforced will laugh, the same way certain conservatives think "Newsbusted" is hilarious, but this makes me sad. If you can be offensive and funny, or grotesque and funny, that's something special. I feel like if they'd just cared enough to dial back the grotesque just a little come up with actual jokes, this could have been wonderful.

looks exactly like Gravity Falls to me, but then so does a lot of stuff these days.

it's not a style. it's a fucking preset. fuck this.

On the other hand I've seen people, actual people I know in real life not Internet people, unironically say, for example, that Bob Dylan should die because he is a mouthpiece for patriarchy.

There are reactionaries on all sides of the culture wars and they deserve each other.

My favorite is Tumblr flipping their shit over men stretching their legs out in empty subway cars.

>>There are reactionaries on all sides of the culture wars and they deserve each other.

Yeah, but the rest of us deserve better. The reactionaries on both sides are setting the the agenda, and it's beginning to look like another 50 or 60 years of REACTING.

We need a compassionate, enlightened feminism AND a compassionate, enlightened Men's Rights Movement. I've come to believe that the MRAs have some genuine grievances, but where they get it wrong is
focusing on feminism as the enemy. Sexism, not feminism is what is fucking up men's lives, just like it is for women.

Women are shamed for being sluts; that's sexism. Men are shamed for being virgins. That's also sexism. It's understood that a man who isn't having sex isn't really a man. You feel like a freak, a loser. That's an expectation that is imposed upon men, the same way that women are expected to be chaste and beautiful. I believe that the pain and self loathing that comes when that expectation isn't met is responsible for all the creepy behaviour that women complain about... men trying desperately to approach women from a place of feeling broken and needy. It ain't pretty. The TFLs and the PUAs and the MGTOWs all seem to be seeking an answer to how we're shaped by our environment to be fundamentally broken.

Again, I submit: Women are shamed for having sex, men are shamed for not having sex. How can this result in anything but an endless cycle of pain and resentment? I think we're all stuck together in this broken system, Maybe women have it worse, maybe they don't. The only thing that matters is that we can all do better, but only through compassion and cooperation.

>>My favorite is Tumblr flipping their shit over men stretching their legs out in empty subway cars.

I know this sounds like a weird thing to say, but Nominal is right about this. Men naturally have a higher center of gravity than women, and this means that on a moving platform, they're going to want a wider base for stability. It's all about not toppling over. That's not an excuse for being inconsiderate. When there's no room for me to spread my feet apart on the bus, I'll bring my legs together, and if I have to hold onto something for dear life, I will.

It's arrogant, ignorant and somewhat offensive to proceed in a discussion of sharing space on public transportation from a starting point that says that men are sitting incorrectly, and that this is just an irrational behaviour without any good reason.

But do you know what else is arrogant, ignorant, and offensive? JANET THE FEMINAZI!! In what crazy science fiction universe is this supposed to be actually helpful? Where does comparing people to Nazis make them more inclined to be receptive and willing to listen?

Some feminists react to some poor scientists bowling shirt as if it's an affront to all women everywhere, which is pretty dumb, but the anti-feminist reaction, defending the honor of the shirt like it was the Magna Carta or something, was not a whit less dumb. I'd like to wish a plague on both your houses, but sadly, we all live in the same houses.

Someone actually spent more than 5 minutes on this and did not reach adulthood in that time.

Smorky was part of a group that trolled a wiki editor named cumuliscloud, to the point of suicide, then tried to cover it up.

@Albuquerque Hasley. Shmorky is also extremely banal. What's your point?

No, that's not really clear at all.

Stars for making me think for a minute about your ass pussy!

Yes. I've been saying this for a long time.

Anything taken too far becomes shit. Even an ideology based on equality. It's not the ideal that becomes shit, just the way people pursue it.

For men and women to resolve the dysfunction requires cooperation, and you can't fight a war for cooperation.

I have come to understand that misandry exists, and some misandrists are naturally drawn to feminism... But feminism isn't misandry!

When I got into a disagreement with a large number of feminists (over #shirtgate) , I discovered just what jerks some of these people (mostly women) could be. And to people who don't get it, these jerks are the face of feminism.

So what if the reverse is true? What if MRA doesn't equal misogyny?

JHM and what if we aren't really here, i mean most matter isa ctually empty space so you aren't realllllly touching anything i mean wow have you ever thought about that?

Maybe this is a bizarre alternate universe, and in some much other, less perverse dimension, you make your point, instead of whatever the hell that was.. I think we should all check ourselves for goatees.

There's no overlooking the context. In the current atmosphere, with this push we have to make FEMINAZI the image of feminism, this qualifies more as propaganda than satire.