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Tags:Space, jupiter, Red Spot, maelstrom, grs
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Date:05/20/15
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Rodents of Unusual Size
Don't forget all the weird creatures that live in its skies!

Arthur C. Clarke reference. Anyone??
John Holmes Motherfucker
Jupiter's Great Red Spot is neither great nor red. Discuss.
gravelstudios
I'm getting verklempt. I'll give you a topic.

John Holmes Motherfucker
I'm getting verklempt at the thought of Jupiter without a Great Red Spot. The Aliens will get lost on their way to earth. They'll think it's Neptune or something.

EvilHomer
You made the claim, you defend it. What have you got against the GRS?

For example, this fellow (whom I'm guessing you lifted your statement from) raises the point that the GRS is probably white, and that the red coloration (actually more like an orange-sienna, if you ask me) is simply the small, outermost layer of the storm system. But it's still the part we see, and thus the part which should give it it's name! To illustrate my point, consider human beings. We can break down people into skin tones - "black", "white", "yellow" - yet actually, if you go down into the various layers of organic tissue beneath that skin, you'll find that human beings are predominately a reddish-blackish yellowy-pink. The outermost layer of skin is very thin, and one need only peel it off to see that that a "black" person is not black, a "brown" person is not brown.

Yet we can still use these terms, because they describe what we see! The color we see is what matters, not the color which constitutes the greatest volume of an object.

I put it to you, Mr Holmes, that saying "well ACTUALLY, the Great Red Spot isn't red", for the reasons stated in this video, is simply an exercise in smugness.

John Holmes Motherfucker
I agree. The GRS may not be red when viewed from the interior, but from that perspective, it isn't even a spot. I'm not convinced that the guy in the video would argue.

Or maybe he would. After all, it's not really a spot, it's a storm. Calling it a spot is referring to a 3 dimensional object as if it was a two dimensional object. Those who study GRS must be accustomed to thinking in 3D.

TeenerTot
It's Jupiter's ass-boil.

EvilHomer
It's not "literally" a spot, but so what? The Sea of Tranquility isn't actually a sea. The Kuiper Belt does not hold up pants. And Jupiter itself is a planet, not a Roman god of yore.

John Holmes Motherfucker
Homer, I really have to hand it to you, and I mean this, I don't know anybody else who can be so balls-out trolling, and still carry on an interesting conversation. I enioy this a great deal.

>>I put it to you, Mr Holmes, that saying "well ACTUALLY, the Great Red Spot isn't red", for the reasons stated in this video, is simply an exercise in smugness.

No, actually, this was originally an SNL reference. Gravelstudios caught it, I don't know who ellse did.

It was also a mild paradox, and a comment on how much more we know now than we used to know. It's interesting to reflect that, from a certain perspective. GRS , while still pretty great, is less great (huge) than it used to be, not red, and for that matter, not even a spot. I( don't know if it's posswible to be consdescending toward a weather patter, but if you could, this is the last one you'd want to to insult. But the GRS shouldn't take offense. It's just turning out to be more interesting and multi-faceted than previously thought.

>>It's not "literally" a spot, but so what? The Sea of Tranquility isn't actually a sea. The Kuiper Belt does not hold up pants. And Jupiter itself is a planet, not a Roman god of yore.

I don't think these examples are applicable, but nevertheless SO WHAT is completely applicable. Nobody's suggesting they rename the damn thing.

John Holmes Motherfucker
I used to be into planetary astronomy when I was a kid, and it's amazing to go back now, and find out how much knowledge has been gained. I had no idea how much of what I was learning about the solar system 40 years ago was bullshit. Saturn had 10 moons, Jupiter had 12. They've mapped the surface of Venus with an orbiting probe, and I JUST FOUND OUT they landed a third, bigger Martian rover in 2012. The first exoplanets were confirmed in 1992, what I just googled say they've confirmed almost 2000. New Horizons will be flying by Pluto in a couple of months. At the rate its been traveling, it'll probably be farther away than the voyagers in a few years.

Incidentally, one of my favorite jokes from all those years of SNL involves a message from the Aliens who had intercept Voyager: SEND MORE CHUCK BERRY!
TeenerTot
Sorry, but "our solar system's most recognizable planetary feature" isn't the red spot. It's Saturn's rings. You lose, narrator-guy!
EvilHomer
I'm pretty sure it's the oceans here on Earth.

Caminante Nocturno
Our solar system's most recognizable planetary feature is the Big Dipper.

Cube
Meh. Now Saturn's hexagonal vortex, THAT'S something!
Chocolate Jesus
weird
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