The awfulness of the crime goes without saying, so let's just talk about how abominable and predatory this production is. I have never seen a true crime show be this graphic and crass when handling a crime scene, and I hate watch these things obsessively when I am on a job. The closest I've seen is the BTK doc on Netflix and that doc did it very poignantly. I can't remember for certain and I don't want to go back and watch it but did they put stings and zooms in on the images of her torn up naked body? Fucking puke.

JHM we need to have some words about what the word documentary means. Calling this a documentary is like calling a tabloid a scientific journal.

It's the re-enactments, the way the crime is a spectacle for average TV viewers. And it's that way because the crime is so horrific that the normal, objective, fact-based documentary with talking heads and still photos would be too depressing to watch. So the producers add more narrative to the tale, which simply masks the underlying atrocity. Shameful shit.

>>Calling this a documentary is like calling a tabloid a scientific journal.

What I called it, you''ll remember, is an "incredibly messed-up Australian True Crime documentary." I don't know how I could have been clearer.

It's certainly not a good documentary, but yes it is a documentary. Errol Morris uses re-enactments in The Thin Blue Line, and he uses them pretty much the same way they're used here, to portray different versions of the truth.

>> I have never seen a true crime show be this graphic and crass when handling a crime scene, and I hate watch these things obsessively when I am on a job.

I've seen things that are more graphic. HBO diid an excellent series of documentaries about medical examiners that spared the viewer nothing. But not more crass. I thought I made that clear as well: WARNING: About a dozen photos of nude headless body from every angle, nipples "tastefully" blurred. The quotes on "tastefully" mean "not tastefully."

>>The awfulness of the crime goes without saying, so let's just talk about how abominable and predatory this production is.

What you may have missed, because its not in the documentary, is that after this guy was released from his fifteen year sentence, he allegedly comitted two more murders, and is currently on the run, not just from the cops but also from the Mafia. What's weird is that this is a completely different kind of murder, some kind of contract killing. I haven't had a chance to get the whole story yet. It's really fucked up.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/sightings-of-states-most-wan ted-man-give-police-hope-20130404-2h9tf.html

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>> (I've always thought that I was some kind of bleeding heart, but holy fuck, 15 years?)

You've spoken out against the death penalty before, Mr Holmes. What say you now?

When you kill a 19 year old of any gender, you should get a life sentence, with no chance of parole until you're way too old to kill anybody else.

>> When you kill a 19 year old of any gender, you should get a life sentence,

A life sentence is acceptable; a death sentence is not. Why is that?

Maybe we should be better than the criminals we remove from society.

Making sure they can no longer physically inflict any sort of pain and suffering on another human being doesn't make you worse than them. It's pretty much what a life sentence is supposed to offer but cannot guarantee.