When I was a kid my family qualified for government assistance even with my dad working full time. Government cheese was awesome. Government peanut butter sucked, but it made good cookies. Paper food stamps were embarrassing to use. EBT cards were invented after we got out of it, but I think they're more dignified--you can sort of pretend you're just using a credit card. Anyway, fuck this lady.
When I was a teenager I worked for Victory Supermarket for a short time, and I remember thinking it was really wise that since we had moved to a computerized checkout it was really clever that the EBT system would only pay for life sustaining/ healthy food. No soda, no cookies, no cakes. a decade down the line and I'm serving as a disabled friend's rep payee for their social security benefits when I find out to my horror that their EBT (which is under their full control) now can pay for any foodstuffs anywhere and that I'll have to try and convince this person to stop spending their entire months food budget on junk food. I wonder when the major food corporations got that through, most likely on the name of freedom of choice?
Yeah, poor kids totally don't deserve cookies.
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I wonder when the major food corporations got that through, most likely on the name of freedom of choice?
As far as I know, it's been that way for decades. Maybe it's a state thing. Do they still have Victory Markets where you are?
Food stamps are why i can afford vegetables.
>>With a food budget of 0 a month, yeah, maybe cookies shouldn't be a priority.
Have you priced produce lately?
Yeah, poor kids totally don't deserve cookies."
If they deserved things they wouldn't be poor, it's just science.
You want cookies? Have them. Just learn to bake."
You know who has a lot of time to bake? Working parents.
deep down we all know there are people who would only feel comfortable with a universal income if it meant they could walk into a house marked as a recipient and harass them by pulling the router out of the wall whenever felt like it
then they would call themselves a good christian
i'm all warm inside thinking about evil news fan fiction
i enjoy fantasizing about a class-based Kristallnacht during our trump presidency
ps when did you guys get your govt cheese? our family got ours in the mid 80s in idaho and it was terrible stuff, tasted like oil and yellow, shit so bad you opened a kraft single after payday and your pinky shoots up as you peel the wrapper off due to the comparative quality and luxury of it all
So then how do you stop people from buying 0 worth of cookie mix? Can't buy cookie mix? How do you stop them from buying 0 worth of cookie ingredients and baking it all into cookies? Baking the cookies yourself doesn't make them healthier.
So now, you've implemented some system that prevents people from buying cookies to satisfy your misguided sense of fairness or health or whatever, AT AN INCREASED COST TO THE TAXPAYER, and people are still able to blow their entire stipend on cookies. Ad to that you've made it that much more difficult for retailers to comply with regulation, which is going to cost you more taxpayer money btw.
Congratulations, now you've figured out why the government stopped trying to regulate what they can buy with their food stamps.
I need to put my paw down here. It is _way_ healthier to make your own cookies. Also, it's trivially easy, and far cheaper than the store bought kind. Try this tonight.
Wildcat's Peanut Butter cookies:
1 3/4 cup flour
1 tsp baking soda
1/2 tsp salt
1/2 cup sugar
1/2 cup brown sugar
1/2 cup peanut butter
1/3 cup olive oil
2 tblsp milk
1 tsp vanilla
1)combine all dry ingredients, whisk well.
2)Add all liquid ingredients, blend with spatula until smooth
3)Add nuts or choco chips for more fun if desired
4)form dough into small balls, space widely on a pan
5)bake 375F 10-12 minutes
The only thing unhealthy in there is the sugar, and you can find substitutes for that if you are picky. These are cheap cookies, and they will knock your socks off.
Protoseth makes a simple comment about bad eating habits, and you all throw an extended temper tantrum over cookies.
I spent most of my childhood thinking hot dog buttons were a legit pizza topping. I still occasionally crave hot dog pizza. My mom stretched EVERY penny. Some people just like kicking poor people because it makes them feel better about their own shitty lives. Fuck them.
I keep careful track of our food receipts, and we rarely spend more than 350USD per month to feed two people here. We eat like kings on that money, largely because I bake and cook all of our food. There are tricks to making this work, and if you are poor and living in a food desert you'll have problems, but it is definitely possible because we live it. I am sorely tempted to do some kind of cooking series or books about how to do this. Young people today seem completely at sea when it comes to this essential skill.
But basically, if you are buying premade food, you are spending a huge amount of money to poison yourself.
Nobody is disputing that it's generally healthier and cheaper to prepare your own food, but you're just wrong if you think a package of Oreo's is making or breaking any person's health. All food is poison, whether it's full of commercial additives or not.
People are fat and unhealthy because they exercise no moderation or portion control, full stop. Making it arbitrarily more difficult to sate their impulses accomplishes nothing except inflating the cost of the services you provide them.
My children are still going to be fat pigs if I feed them nothing but Wildcat's cookies and sugary drinks I made myself like sweet tea or lemonade.
Are you suggesting that in the 70's and 80's, my generation had superior self control than today's youth? Seriously? Back then, the obesity rate was about one in twelve. Today, it is one in three. Something's changed, and we weren't living like monks back then, trust me.
It's combination of things, including the prevalence of junk food. I grew up in the 80's. I know how kids played before, tablets, computers, video games, 24 hour fear-monger news that convinces their parents it's not ok to let them go outside and explore. Before some people had to work 14 hours a day to make a living. Before it was socially acceptable to try and raise a kid on your own. Back when social mores forced people who hated each other to stay together and pass practical knowledge about how to live down to their children.
HFCS isn't the best way to sweeten your food, but it's not the devil sauce you think it is. Like everything in the history of forever, forcing people to arbitrary (and they are absolutely arbitrary) standards isn't worth anything if you can't teach them why and then work to engender a society that makes it the most practical choice.
All excellent points, I grant you that. But we're in farm country here, and it's a truism that when you take your pigs/cattle to market, you fatten them up by feeding them corn. There's corn sugar in just about everything these days, and I can't help but think that may play a role. But as you say, despite sitting in front of a computer for a good deal of my young life, I did ride my bike everywhere and spent a lot of time outdoors. Today on our rural road, the parents will drive their SUV's down to the intersection to drop off and pick up their children from the bus. Apparently, the 1/4 mile or so to their houses is just too big a trek to make on foot? This even in the spring and summer, when blue skies and 75F is the norm. Incredible.
To be honest, I've generally found the price of buying all the ingredients to bake things like cookies tends to be a lot more expensive than just buying a box of cookies.
EBT would be fine, except the criteria for application is absurdly cumbersome, the offices in charge of EBT eligibility are critically understaffed, and half the people on EBT want to spend their benefits on cigarettes instead of food - which leads to all kinds of legal problems, for them and for vendors.
People should just get money with no strings attached, spending it on whatever they wish to buy. Lettuce? Cigs? Lobster? Cookies? Let consumers and the market decide.
Wow what an unpleasant lady.
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It has vanished, like a cookie on a poor child's plate.
lady got a bumper sticker that say "E. L. Fudge Yourself" with ernie keebler pissing on a chevy logo
Why get upset over them buying cookies, a bag of oreos or el fudges are like 3 bucks.
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See in Romania everyone gets food tickets as part of their pay. One per work day, with the equivalent value of a meal. So there's no stigma against them, even if you get them as part of your welfare payments.
Since food tickets are basically a parallel currency that isn't taxed both employers and employees get to benefit.
I buy cigarettes and booze with mine all the time, the only trick is that you have to also buy a qualified food or hygiene item along with it. Although bodegas won't stick to that rule necessarily.
I'm just making conversation since that lady is such a huge cunt I need to distract myself from hurling obscenities in comment section on the internet.
The Egyptians paid workers in beer.
Could you imagine the shitstorm that would cause if it happened today?
Walmart is no place for snobbery.
It's not really snobbery. It's more of the anti-welfare state, hating handouts mentality. There are probably tons of right wing radio listeners who qualify for foodstamps who refuse it out of principal.
They won't take that attitude to Target, they're likely boycotting the store over it's pro-transgender policies.
That same mindset is also common among abortion opponents, hence the phrase "the only moral abortion is my own abortion."
I keep watching the video over and over hoping the Noid runs up and murders the lady with a hammer.
It -has- to be the Noid. Don't ask.
I love how there are people out there who automatically assume every time they see a person doing something they don't approve of that said person is a supporter of a president/presidential candidate they don't like.
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