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Old_Zircon - 2016-06-26

New Order > Joy Division


baleen - 2016-06-26

ooof nooo


That guy - 2016-06-26

FIGHT


Old_Zircon - 2016-06-26

All I'm saying is I've got Unknown Pleasures and I've got Substance and I don't listen to either of them very often but there's one I listen to significantly more than the other.


That guy - 2016-06-26

Scarlett Johansson > Don Johnson > Bruce Willis


Miss Henson's 6th grade class - 2016-06-26

Depends. Are you a happy person or an unhappy person?


bongoprophet - 2016-06-27

I thought I was the only one, now I feel less guilty.


Old_Zircon - 2016-06-27

I think part of it is that New Order was never overhyped to death by the art school kids who made up 3/4 of my social circle through most of my 20s.



Ironically, this conversation is making me want to listen to Joy Division.


spikestoyiu - 2016-06-27

If you compare discographies, New Order is definitely way better than Joy Division


That guy - 2016-06-27

That art school kids effect is real and can make you hate anything. But I still think we're talking about whether ScarJo's album is better than Bruce Willis'.


dairyqueenlatifah - 2016-06-26

Not nearly as painful as those DirecTV ads Bon Jovi is doing right now.


StanleyPain - 2016-06-26

Remember that weird period in the early-to-mid 90s when companies were basically straight up stealing music for their ads? Like, if an artist refused, they just made some shitty note-for-note imitation of the song anyway and just dared people to sue them?
I remember someone doing a Tom Waits imitation and Waits actually suing them successfully, but holy shit that was everywhere. Remember those ads for the VW Beetle where they litereally just ripped off Little Fluffy Clouds by The Orb (right down to imitating the *fucking samples* of Ricki Lee Jones talking about clouds)? Oh god there were so many.


Spaceman Africa - 2016-06-26

That VW Beetle ad actually was The Orb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrCye2w10vE


Old_Zircon - 2016-06-27

I was always pretty happy when I noticed one of those.

Didn't know about the Tom Waits, did know about The Orb.


Leviathant - 2016-06-27

I was watching TV with my dad, some show about hot rods or something like that, and during the commercials, there was some motor oil company that in two separate but similar commercials used knockoffs of NIN's March of the Pigs and Thrill Kill Kult's After the Flesh. I still regret not writing down details of the commercials - I haven't seen them since.

VW using Little Fluffy Clouds was really disappointing.


Scrimmjob - 2016-06-27

There is some dogshit car commercial I've caught a few times recently that does this with The Pixies "Where is My Mind". It is insufferable on many levels!


That guy - 2016-06-27

The reason Waits won the lawsuit was that a company contacted him for a song, then ripped a thinly-disguised version of that song and his style. It was apparently that combination of details that lost them the case. It was more pronounced of a rip-off than the Robin Thicke / Marvin Gaye thing (which I still think was a real loss for artists' rights (even though in that particular case my heart would side with Marvin Gaye)).

Waits did not successfully 'copyright his voice' (or I would have been sued for karaoke like 20 times now).


StanleyPain - 2016-06-28

One of the VW ads really used the song, but there were others that used a bizarre note-for-note copy. They did the same thing with Fluke's "Atom Bomb"...it was some weird re-creation of the song.


StanleyPain - 2016-06-28

Oh god...remember the pie commercial that used EMF? "You're CRUMBELIEVABLE!"


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