A fine start would be if the majority stop finding excuses to justify (largely) black men being maimed/murdered by chickenshit cops and push for legislation for all wounding/death-by-cop incidents to be investigated independently.

You can argue whether they're terrorists from now until tomorrow.

You can't deny that walking through the streets calling for cop killing is going to do anything but make this problem worse.

Citation needed.

You're right, here they are openly calling for the deaths of all cops...

http://blacklivesmatter.com/the-black-lives-matter-network-adv ocates-for-dignity-justice-and-respect/

You know when trolling becomes indistinguishable from the actual neonazi exhibits who post around here, maybe it's time to put it to bed? *shrug*

Here are just a couple examples:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqQXmnMr_w8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xNxoeqf0Ws

Also, there's, you know, that whole thing where five cops and three cops got massacred by BLM supporters on two separate occasions. Of course I know, I know, none of that is connected at all.

Also again, I'm getting called a far right neonazi/troll merely opposing racism and violence. What a time to be alive.

Link #1: Not BLM
http://www.msnbc.com/the-reid-report/the-truth-about-the-dead- cops-chant

Link #2: Fox news, one small group of idiots are totally representative of ALL BLM, yes siree case closed.

As for this:
"Also again, I'm getting called a far right neonazi/troll merely opposing racism and violence. What a time to be alive."

You are trolling, and not very well, but you got your response, add it to your trophy shelf for the 'grown adult valuable discussion self-congratulatory' category.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

Also, go look up what trolling means please. Someone saying you don't like/disagree with is not trolling.

"opposing violence."

Of all the hypergrapghic Sciencopogy you are typing, you never once said the shooting of this man in the video was questionable.

Did you plan to do that after the sixteen individual posts to everyone personally telling them how wrong they are?

I question why it didn't come to your mind, at all.

Actually, trolling is giving the benefit of the doubt here that DQL is even aware of what they're doing. DQL has a habit of over reacting and being a spaz, as well as downplaying shit to have a sense of something to rail against.

In short. DQL is fucking dumb. Not a racist or a bigot. Just really, really fucking dumb.

Hey, that's no crime, I'm really fucking dumb too!

It's a fool's paradise, but I like it.

Not sure what you think a 'no true scotsman' fallacy has to do with the literal LIE within the first video that you claimed was BLM, when it demonstrably is not.

On to your second lie that the small group, -cherrypicked from 1 year ago- are representative of the whole BLM movement and totally, literally calling for cops to be shot, because 'fried' = 'shot to death' by some concern-trolling mental gymnastics.

Please though, I'm enthralled by your nizkor list sophomoric argumentation and wiki links, do continue with this weakass trolling. *eyeroll*

Shit though, I've found their literal plan to end cop violence by DEATHMURDERING ALL COPS TO DEATH: http://www.joincampaignzero.org/#vision

Welp, that's me convinced. Terrorism 5/7.

OH. MY. FUCKING. GOD.

I didn't say that because IT'S FUCKING OBVIOUS WITHOUT SAYING JESUS FUCKING CHRIST. You needed me to point that out? Why do you think I gave the video five stars? Did you think I was saying this shit was justifiable? No, of course not. Only a complete lunatic would say that. You expected me to point out that a man laying on the ground with his hands up being shot is wrong?

It's like discussing a video where a guy throws his kid off a freeway overpass and then trying to suggest that I support child abuse for not pointing out that what he did was wrong. Maybe I hold a little too much faith in my fellow human beings still, but I shouldn't have to point something like that out.

To make it glaring clear before someone decides to accuse me of being a monster: YES THIS SHIT WAS WRONG, I OPPOSE IT, THE OFFICER RESPONSIBLE SHOULD BE STRIPPED OF HIS BADGE, THROWN IN PRISON, AND NEVER BE ALLOWED TO HANDLE A FIREARM OR WORK IN A POSITION OF LEGAL AUTHORITY AGAIN, AND THIS GUY SHOULD BE AWARDED ENOUGH MONEY TO NEVER HAVE TO WORK AGAIN AND THEN SOME.

99.99% of PoeTV agrees that five stars is complete sincerety

I'm on herion, codine and Mike's Harder lemonade.

Love this shit rough.

"DQL has a habit of over reacting and being a spaz"

Oh. My. God. Joe.

Take a look at yourself. Take a good, long look.

"It's like discussing a video where a guy throws his kid off a freeway overpass and then trying to suggest that I support child abuse for not pointing out that what he did was wrong. Maybe I hold a little too much faith in my fellow human beings still[YOU OWE SPENCER'S 50 BUCKS BIATCH!!], but I shouldn't have to point something like that out."

But that's no where near the situation (Psst are you in bed yet?) because the problems are one sided. (Good night's rest?" Blacks have been dealing with over a century of abuse and that abuse has constantly been revisited or rebranded in one way or another. Pretending that there would never be groups of them splitting off to find circles that match their interests/views and emotions that contrast to what world hope is, and constantly keeping it tightly knit to a point of ideological incest (and yes, physical incest) is dumb. This is not a one sided bit for a plethora of reasons due to lack of knowledge, education and/or connectivity

Yes. Them being racist is wrong, but you're not even taking the chance of suggesting that the media is being a piece of shit and playing to the tune of "anything is possible so let's focus on how these people are racists and we know you like balance!! (psst let's not do the white people just yet m'kay)" and you're eating it up like a jackass for what ever bullshit reason you have.

["DQL has a habit of over reacting and being a spaz"

Oh. My. God. Joe.

Take a look at yourself. Take a good, long look.]

Yeah. I know.

I could easily call him a faggot knowing he's bi with all knowledge that their use of calling me a retard fits well into the struggles of someone with a developmental disability who would never have been given lee way except for pure luck and a reserved nature. I could easily fucking do that with more sincerity than a lot of others who use the word faggot for reasons beyond being fucking dumb and desperately trying to hold on to something that was never there to begin with. And really, calling him a faggot with out any of this context wouldn't phase him as much.

I could easily call him a faggot and make every word count. But I won't, because it's stupid, vindictive and wouldn't hold well at all. Whether for you and the other's psuedo intellectual premise that they're merely words and that their meanings and definitions can be switched to and thro at will, or because of you and DQL's shared ego trip of me losing you.

I really have no problem with this website being shut down now. Good luck not biting through your fingers when you try to branch out.

::popcorn::

For you, Gmork.

http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=154512

Don't make me dig up the rest of your shit you sophomoric, lying, conniving shit stain.

Why are you linking to the ghostbusters HitB review? The one you flipped out on because I didn't 1-star simply because caminante submitted it? How is that relevant?

I don't care what you "dig up", I stand by every single thing I've said. The fact you actually think I'm racist shows how astoundingly stupid you are.

Froth at the mouth some more, see where that gets you.

Honestly, I wish I was way dumber than I already am.

It'd be pretty sweet, every day would be fun.

BLM is not a terrorist group, dairykingstontrio. For fucks sake, getting them that label is just a pet project of right wing cranks that no one takes seriously.

Where did I say they were terrorists Cena? I said you're free to argue about it. I think they're hateful, violent, racist, homophobic, dishonest morons. Not terrorists though.

I do think there are BLM supporters who are good people with good intentions who have their heart in the right place and think they're supporting something good, but they're sadly mistaken and not looking at all the data.

"And now BLM will finally be treated like the racist, supremacist, homophobic, domestic terror movement that it is. So thanks mass murderer dude and all the retarded BLM supporters who are currently praising his actions!" - Dairyqueenlatifah, from his work 'trolling or a racist idiot: the public decides'

They are proto-terrorists and they are offshooting into a segment that will produce more violence. Because that is what a certain percentage of them want.

I didn't shed a single tear for Michael Brown because you reap what you sow. I also didn't give a fuck about Trayvon OR George Zimmerman. Trayvon would have shot someone eventually. Zimmerman is a dumbass. Alton Brown had a gun on him and was resisting arrest, and had a huge rap sheet. Likewise, I feel nothing inside.

But this guy didn't deserve shit. I kind of want to cry because he was helping an autistic man, but I have also decided to kill off all of my emotions one by one so that I never feel anything again.

Well, good luck America!

"Trayvon would have shot someone eventually."

Fuck you, RoUS. I used to think "RoUS is dealing with his own problems, I should accept he's doing the best he can with hit shitstorm of a life", but no more. Whatever you're going through doesn't justify saying that a kid deserved to die because you've decided he'd probably be a murderer someday.

Trayvon also owned banned semi automatic weapons and was on the road to embracing a life of violence. Also, I'm pretty cynical.

George Zimmerman is probably going to be assassinated some day. See? I'm an equal opportunity cynic!

Fuck you RoUS, the problem here isn't that you're a cynic, the problem is that you're a self-centered asshole.

"Trayvon also owned banned semi automatic weapons and was on the road to embracing a life of violence."

Link on the banned semi automatic weapons or you're a racist piece of shit who believes what they say on Stormfront.

As for "on the road to embracing a life of violence", if even you have to couch "a life of violence" with "on the road to embracing" one, even you know you're making this shit up.

Why would they mention the cop's race? It's not really relevant. BLM's narrative has never been that the shootings happen because WHITES HATE BLACKS. They've consistently emphasized the completely true fact that they're brutalized by cops at MUCH higher rates than whites, and the media's reaction to their brutalization systematically attempts to justify or diminish the violence.

So maybe you'll stop spouting resentful nonsense and try listening to BLM for a chance? Maybe?

Even by cop apologist standards, those are some hilariously thin and flimsy straws DQL is grasping at.

Did you know that latinos can be racist? In fact they can do anything they set their minds to!

Did you know that black people can be racist?

Apparently not because you're defending BLM.

You know DQL is a racist shithead because he has that 'all the minorities are in league against white people' mindset down

Jesus Christ are you illiterate SolRo? Where did I even suggest that?

"Did you know that black people can be racist?"

No shit? When the fuck did that happen!? OH MY GOD I'M TEMPTED TO MAKE A REFERENCE TO WHITES THINKING THEY SHOULD BE GRATEFUL FOR NOT BEING SLAVES ANYMORE BUT THEN DQL WILL TAKE IT PERSONALLY AND THINK I'M TRYING TO DISMISS AN OBVIOUS FUCKING THING.

That's the reason you're being called a fucking racist. Stop taking yourself seriously and maybe there will be a better discussion than blowing your objectionable load of view

Are you drunk Shoebox Joe? I've never spoken to you. Why on earth wouldn't I take myself seriously? When were white people slaves? Where has anything I said been remotely racist?

Your post makes no sense.

Okay, I thought maybe playing it low would give you the sense that the shit you're saying is nothing new and not relevant, but now I really am tempted to consider you a racist piece of shit.

Ah I get it now, you're not drunk. You're just a retard.

How disappointing.

How am I a retard when you sound like a Spencer's clearance sale?

"Are you drunk? I've never spoken to you."

"Why on earth wouldn't I take myself seriously?"

Except for this one. This one is special since there have been white slaves. Just not in America.

"When were white people slaves? Where has anything I said been remotely racist?"

"How am I a retard when you sound like a Spencer's clearance sale?"

Because you're literally screaming "RACIST! RAAACCCIIIIISSSSTT!" at things that aren't racist. As if that word hasn't been devalued enough already.

I've made it clear multiple times that I abhor racism, I'm speaking out and criticizing things things because I oppose racism, and you're calling me racist for it. That's all I did in these comments. All I did was questioned a racist position, and I've been called everything from a troll to a nazi to a racist to an alt-righter to a white genocide conspiracy theorist.

And I assumed we were talking about America, since, we're in America and this whole situation is happening in America. Yes, I'm well aware white people have been slaves in other parts of the world, it's just not relevant to the topic at hand from where I'm sitting.

I should probably just put this up since the Ancient Origin website sounds like it's been abused by the Bundys

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_pirates#Barbary_slaves

Pssst.


That's for yoooooooooou

And you've lost me again by posting shit that has nothing to do with anything again.

I'm going to bed. You should too, and lay off whatever you've been taking. Goodnight!

Pssst.


Psssst.


Hey DQL.


Consider this my official statement that you are indeed a racist since my recent mulling.


Have a nice day.


PS. It should really just be called systematic bigotry, but then you and a lot of racist heels wouldn't have a soap box to stand on.

"Because you're literally screaming "RACIST! RAAACCCIIIIISSSSTT!" at things that aren't racist. As if that word hasn't been devalued enough already."

DQL - he does that shit to me all the time. Don't take it personally. Some people need others to fit into some preconceived stereotype in order for their worldview to not shatter into a zillion pieces.

Kind of like a racist!

Oh look, you have a friend.

Not really. DQL has been a complete bitch to me on many occasions, but it doesn't stop me from recognizing validity on a case-by-case basis, like you are frequently prone to doing.

Well, this discussion has definitely justified the attempted murder of that unarmed man with his hands up. Give that cop a medal!

Yeah, you keep thinking that.

That was directed at Gmork, lo should the poe historians not have access to date stamps.

We have the full backstory now.

DQL once supported BLM, but then some of them crashed a gay pride parade so now his fairy feelings are hurt and he retroactively hates everything BLM, and has many imaginary examples of them being terrorists.



The whole fair-weather friendship thing happens on both sides of the black and gay community, depending on which side is doing well enough to stop giving a shit about other people being oppressed.

"You keep thinking that."

Thinking what? I made factual statements. There's no edge for you to pry up. Give it a rest.

Hey...you're not a minority that counts! You can only have an opinion if you're black! Or if you agree with BLM!

I mean honestly, the nerve of you people.

Most Americans are allergic to introspection

I only get judgey when it comes to shooting people. We have plenty of corrupt and asshole cops and a whole lotta ugly shit going down.

But you guys go really overboard with the whole shooting thing. It's not even funny anymore.

Apologies to anyone who posts something non-embarassing up there after I post this.



It might happen.

OH YOU KNOW IT!!

FIRST! MOTHER FUCKER!!

My thoughts exactly.

I'm absolutely not embarrassed to chase up someone who posts shit like this though OZ:

"And now BLM will finally be treated like the racist, supremacist, homophobic, domestic terror movement that it is. So thanks mass murderer dude and all the retarded BLM supporters who are currently praising his actions!"

YMMV.

I was doing statistical research in your mother's cunt. It's fucking humid in there and the charts don't lie!!

Oh wait, shit, you might think I'm with you on this one.

What even degree you have, burn it.

*Statistics found in a chain email I get as part of my updates from stormfront.

even if it only happened once to one person, it's still an abuse of power by the state that could have been prevented through proper oversight, unlike lightning, which is an completely fucking random force of nature, and is completely fucking different

There are simply no official reliable data on the number of civilian deaths in the U.S. at the hands of police officers. The police are not required to collect and report that information. All we have are rough estimates, compiled mainly by news reporters.

However, we do have hard facts on the number of police officers feloniously killed. The FBI keeps track of that. The annual per capita number of officers killed has been falling for at least ten years in a row.

So if you want to quote statistics to pretend there is no problem with the police in this country, there you are.

Pshaw, why even mention that one act is intentional?

Fezren's female relatives have a higher chance of dying in a car accident than being raped to death by a cop, so it's no big deal if they're raped to death by a cop.

"Back off guys, I did the MATHS, this checks out"

And same thing happening to a white person has the same likelihood as being struck by lighting on the lower left quadrant of your right testicle ten times in a row while getting a blowjob from the Olsen twins.

Also struck by lightning is an random accident, this shooting was completely deliberate. You dont accidentally shoot someone lying on the ground with his hands in the air. Fucking strawman.

"Also struck by lightning is an random accident, this shooting was completely deliberate."

Completely deliberate by people our society entrusts with more power than your average citizen to carry weapons and use them, in the name of protecting society. Even if there are other things that take more lives, as a matter of our society's values, we need to deal with this. (Not that it's actually an either-or.)

Pretty much the response I expected to get here, running the gamut from calling me racist, fallacious analogies, opinions unsupported by facts, non sequiturs, and misinterpretations.

Oh yeah, and the irony of being implicated as a racist by an anti-Semite.

"Oh yeah, and the irony of being implicated as a racist by an anti-Semite."

I don't see the problem there. Everyone's at least a little bit of a bigot in some way whether they intend to be or not. (Usually, people don't intend to.)

To me, the smart approach is to take charges of bigotry seriously, and to engage in candid self-examination to test the charges. Could be the other person is wrong, or they could be right in part or in whole. Don't be afraid to detect it in yourself, because then you can't do anything about it.

"Pretty much the response I expected to get here, running the gamut from calling me racist, fallacious analogies, opinions unsupported by facts, non sequiturs, and misinterpretations.

Oh yeah, and the irony of being implicated as a racist by an anti-Semite."

i'm sure your opinion on the matter won't change until you, or someone you care about, is put in a similar situation by the state, and then it won't seem quite so trivial and abstract to you.

if seeing the rights of your fellow citizens being denied doesn't piss you off, well, you've probably got some other issues and biases at play, have a severe authoritarian streak, or, at best, you're just a selfish myopic asshole

... see that? Even the Web site agrees those are some powerful black words.

I like the article, as it mirrors some of my own feelings about police growing up poor in relatively crime-ridden areas. The people who lived there were predominantly white, but the sentiment was the same.

I disagree with your BLM analogy however. I don't know anyone who is against BLM because of the core message against abuse by police and the lack of justice received by victims of police abuse. I haven't seen an argument from the 'pro-cops-killing-black-people' angle.

Personally, I don't like BLM because of the violent rhetoric that comes from them, the statements they make that I consider racist, and their overall segregationist tendencies.

My analogy speaks to misconceptions about BLM -- there are a lot of shitheads out there who assume BLM is anti-police in general, rather than anti-police-abuse.

I can't say I've noticed any segregationist or racist tendencies on BLM's part. Frustration with being an underclass in a society that primarily serves whites, sure; but acknowledging very real racial disparities is neither racist nor segregationist.

On the one hand, I like BLM, because I like Color Revolutions. On the other hand, I don't like BLM, because I only like Color Revolutions when they happen in Eastern European and/or Muslim countries.

It is a dilemma.

*slap*

I'm NOT racist AND I'm a BAD person!