As a white person, I really dislike being stereotyped into the same category as this idiot and you.

Pointing out race coupled with bad behavior is a profoundly ignorant thing to do. Puts you on the same level as the people who peruse chimpout.

This guy was neither arrested nor officially disciplined in any way for his behavior. He wasn't even kicked off the flight.

If you think he would have gotten away with that if he wasn't white, that's adorable. Keep getting offended.

I've always viewed the term "white trash" as being, not so much a racist thing, but a classist one. In my experience, people who use the term "white trash" unironically do not view ALL white people as trash - they only hate the economically disenfranchised. Rich white people, particularly rich white people with suitably urbane tastes and values, are seen as OK.

@15th: as white trash myself, I have a lot of disdain for the bullshit we as a skin-tone grouping have inflicted and continue to inflict on the world. It shames us all.

@gmork: If you don't see the gulf of difference between in-group criticism and 'white guys who go to chimpout et al to reinforce their out-group racial biases' well there's no helping you. *shrug*

@Xeno: I'm glad someone gets it.

I might be off base, but I've just noticed you're among the biggest proponents of the 'white people tag', bawbag.

Whenever an individual person is a jerk-off, even if it is racially motivated, I try not to generalize anything about whatever race that person belongs to.

Self-hating whites do seems to be a real liberal phenomenon though. I think the right has gained some traction because they PERCEIVE the left as wanting them to be culpable/repentant for things they perhaps didn't directly do. This is kind of abstract, as someone recently pointed out, and that's why they may be so turned off by it.

This isn't my hang-up, I just think it's unhealthy. I can only try to be a decent person - this drunk dodo doesn't represent me at all and I don't feel any shame for it.

Xenocide, I'm not offended at all.

I'd argue the 'liberal' side of things has always been geared to ignoring the racial context. Don't lump me in with liberals though, I'm a lot more left than that :)

Anyway, confronting terrible behaviour has real world benefits even if it hurts feelings: http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/psp/90/5/784/

>>I'd argue the 'liberal' side of things has always been geared to ignoring the racial context.

On what planet?

I'm not against calling people out on bad behavior whatsoever. I just didn't see what this clip has to do with the white race.

Also, your goddamn smiley faces are so disarming.

:o)

To answer your question though: planet earth.

Left and right Liberals have a tendency to reduce everything to an argument about class and while they often pay lipservice to racial/social justice, in practice the white liberals -in particular- always want to take it back to talking about class, neoliberalism/globalism rather than examining the intersections or really working at the liberation of those they want to vote for them.

They're very often the epitome of the 'white moderate' that MLK jr opined upon from his cell.

eg. 'Yes those are bad things, but let's talk about it some other time, in a different way, after we've dealt with [insert white liberal elite concern]'

2016 was the year I learned that "intersectionality" was the new official term for what I'd always known under the title of "completely, transparently self-evident things that anyone who has ever interacted with other people - or even observed other people interacting - should intuitively understand by the time they've stopped getting taller."


I need to get better about reminding myself that what's obvious to me is not necessarily obvious to everyone else, that being aware of your own blind spots is all well and good but it's also important to be aware of OTHERS' blind spots.

I always forget who first said the "I know there is no god, but what I'm afraid of is that God doesn't know" thing but it applies here as well as anywhere.

My mistake, I read that as liberals ignore racial context more than conservatives. Yeah, I get what you're saying.

prejudices' roots snarl through a lot of shit.

It's not just black and white

Duh dum chik

Worked for Trump.

All the pickup trucks I've seen lately have been driving like bigger assholes than usual.

God yes!

The number of pickup trucks tailing and cutting me off has quadrupled the past couple weeks.

I just love how they keep yelling 'truuuuump truuuuump TRUUUUUMMMMP' like some sort of magical invocation in these incidents.

Maybe if you shout it at 5 liberals cheeto jesus appears and knights you with a red MAGA cap and a taco bowl.

We had a caravan of 20+ pickup trucks decked out in American flags with a big sound system playing patriotic songs and blowing air horns and one truck horn that played Dixie at everyone they saw in the Brown University area a week ago.

Although apparently someone burned a flag and they were using that as an excuse, so it wasn't without context. Plus flag burning is about the most hollow protest gesture you can make - it gives people like the Trump truck drivers an excuse to do what they do, but has no real symbolic meaning for anyone else anymore. Maybe 40 years ago it was a real statement but in 2016 it's more of a blank slate.

Doesn't mean the Trump counterprotesters weren't assholes of course.

The beauty of politically motivated harassment, is that I would never be considered a suspect. I'm a white, clean cut guy, just walking my dog or something. He might never get that he was targeted for his beliefs. But I've done this sort of thing before against bullies, and provided me with more satisfaction than years of compliant work.

Secretly SWATing him or whatever fails the Cask of Amontillado's golden standards of revenge, which are that

1. You get away with it without repercussions, and
2. Your victim knows it was you, but is powerless to act.

Couldn't you at least give him a meaningful look as his car is being impounded?

If you must insist on comeuppance, I can't think of anything better than putting him up on the internet, and wait for Donald to screw the pooch. Fox News
ran an article where an interviewer told a Trump voter, a single Mom, that her taxes were probably going up under Trump's plan.

""I would want him to explain that to me," she said. "Taxes have to make sense to the people paying them."

Good luck with that.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/28/analysis-for-some-i n-middle-class-trump-plan-would-mean-tax-increase.html

do it and shut up

"Hey, I'm trying to eat lunch here!"

"Backa the bus, Rosa Parks"

Also, Trump's ego is bruised by the fact he lost the popular vote. He took to Twitter and claimed at least 3 million people voted illegally for Hillary.

You're the God-damned President elect, now. Stop getting on Twitter, you enormous spoiled child.

It's exactly how a six year old would lie.

Gee, it's almost like the claim that millions of people voted illegally should merit some sort of investigation and re-count in those states, huh?

Not that the gutless fucking media we have now would ever press Trump on the argument in favor of the recount that he just made for himself.

I don't know why so many people were shocked that the mainstream media helped Trump get elected.

The mainstream media is owned and operated by and for the benefit of rich assholes like Trump.

>>Not that the gutless fucking media we have now would ever press Trump on the argument in favor of the recount that he just made for himself.

That's not the media's job. The media's job is to tell us when he's lying, which they did this time.

>>>I don't know why so many people were shocked that the mainstream media helped Trump get elected.

>>>The mainstream media is owned and operated by and for the benefit of rich assholes like Trump.

Everything that's wrong with the media these days comes down to economic pressures, in some cases from greedy investors, and in the case of print media, from a collapsing business model. So CNN would fill hours covering the Trump freak show. No one ever took it seriously.

And Trump strains the conventions of reporting. When a candidate lies every two and half minutes (someone actually did the math) , How do say that he's lying, and still seem neutral. They weren't ready for him.

The media we're talking about (cable news, major print outlets) is almost all corporations, which means that their job is, by legal definition, to maximize quarterly profits for their shareholders at the expense of all other concerns.

Journalistic integrity and ethics are only their job if it is thought to be more profitable in the next fiscal cycle than other approaches.

bad news...that is the air marshal

Only a small fraction of flights have an air marshal aboard.

*****

Lurchi well played.

Golf clap for Lurchi.

Also banned for life.

http://blog.sfgate.com/cmcginnis/2016/11/28/delta-bans-pro-trump-p assenger-issues-refunds/

Refunds were also issued.