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John Holmes Motherfucker - 2020-11-28

TRUMP LOST! TRUMP LOST! TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP LOST!

TRUMP LOST! TRUMP LOST! TRUMP TRUMP LOST!

LOST LOST LOST LOST! TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP LOST! LOST LOST LOST LOST! TRUMP TRUMP LOST!

https://youtu.be/9PoL5s5KGO4


Hazelnut - 2020-12-01

"I mean, I'm sorry the dems nominated a sexual assaulter who will lose the general? Maybe they should have picked literally anyone else? Fucking Yang even? Yes, ORANGE MAN BAD, but that doesn't change clearly observable reality."
Ashtarsmack, 10 Apr 2020


Well I'm observing the reality right now that TRUMP LOST! :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2020-11-29

https://tinyurl.com/y2w5ld4b

Politico:
The Inside Story of Michigan’s Fake Voter Fraud Scandal

How a state that was never in doubt became a "national embarrassment" and a symbol of the Republican Party’s fealty to Donald Trump.

By TIM ALBERTA

11/24/2020 09:00 PM EST

After five years spent bullying the Republican Party into submission, President Donald Trump finally met his match in Aaron Van Langevelde.

Who?

That’s right. In the end, it wasn’t a senator or a judge or a general who stood up to the leader of the free world. There was no dramatic, made-for-Hollywood collision of cosmic egos. Rather, the death knell of Trump’s presidency was sounded by a baby-faced lawyer, looking over his glasses on a grainy Zoom feed on a gloomy Monday afternoon, reading from a statement that reflected a courage and moral clarity that has gone AWOL from his party, pleading with the tens of thousands of people watching online to understand that some lines can never be uncrossed.

“We must not attempt to exercise power we simply don’t have,” declared Van Langevelde, a member of Michigan’s board of state canvassers, the ministerial body with sole authority to make official Joe Biden’s victory over Trump. “As John Adams once said, 'We are a government of laws, not men.' This board needs to adhere to that principle here today. This board must do its part to uphold the rule of law and comply with our legal duty to certify this election.”

Continued at the link above


Nominal - 2020-11-29

This odd notion that only now was the Republican party lacking in courage and morals.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2020-11-29

He doesn't really specify a timespan for the deficit

>>> reading from a statement that reflected a courage and moral clarity that has gone AWOL from his party,


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2020-11-29

The hard to swallow truth is that, in the swing states, it was a handful of local and state Republicans who held the line against real tyranny, the kind these don't-tread-on-me pieces of shit can't even imagine.


Meerkat - 2020-11-29

Oh they imagine it all right, they just don't imagine the jack boots coming down on THEIR faces.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2020-11-29

Exactly my point.


Hazelnut - 2020-11-29

If you want a good laugh, read Emily Murphy's whiny, self-serving, pity-party letter to Biden here: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/23/politics/gsa-transition-letter/ index.html


Nominal - 2020-11-29

Why has Ham not written the letter? The ink it is gravy!


Hazelnut - 2020-11-29

Whoops didn't mean to reply in the thread. But as long as I am in the thread, I'm with JHM: God bless those state & local officials with some backbone and sense of responsibility! To a large extent that's the line between us and real dictatorship: the latter is when official duty is totally suborned to the aforementioned jackboots.


Nominal - 2020-11-29

Now we just have to hope both Georgia runoffs kick Repubs out, and that Don doesn't disastrously order a total withdrawal from Iraq & Afghanistan OR straight up start a war with Iran.

We're going to see some non-euclidean geometry with the amount of twisting the GOP senate will do when it comes time to explain why Biden shouldn't get to appoint any judges his 1st, 2nd, or 3rd year.


exy - 2020-11-30

If the GOP hangs on to the Senate, I reckon they have figured out they can just argue "Nah..."


Nominal - 2020-11-30

There's been constant talk about how the electoral college is anti-democratic and broken, but I'd make the argument that the senate itself is worse and does far more damage far more often.

It was a bone thrown to hesitant states back when everyone still wasn't sure if the fledgling republic was a good idea. The gap between most and least populous state was also only 12:1 back then, compared to the 40:1 it is today. States would get their voting power greatly diminished if they merged? Or greatly increased if they fragmented? The shit is that dumbfuckery? It places greater importance on borders than people.

Worse is how it's given more power and entrenchment than the house.

It's hard to think of another representative democracy that has a similar, equally stupid sub-branch. Britain was at least smart enough to reduce the house of lords to ornamentation.


Hazelnut - 2020-11-30

Abolishing the Senate would probably be a bad idea — bicameralism has its benefits. Weakening it to about the level of the House of Lords sounds about right.

But since that isn't going to happen in the next 100 years, maybe we should just bite the bullet and try to appeal to rural people.


SolRo - 2020-12-01

There at least needs to be a way for the house and executive branch to bypass the senate "veto" if there are enough votes in the house.

Because effectively mitch mcconnel runs the government.


Nominal - 2020-12-01

BUT THAT WILL LEAD TO TYRANNY OF THE BLUE COASTAL ELITES CALIFORNIA AND JEW YORK!!! (funny how no one mentions Texas or Florida when defending the senate and electoral college)


More "the senate is bullshit" factoids:

The 26 least populous states can block all bills and control all appointments while making up only 18% of the population.

California alone has population equal to the bottom 30 states, yet only 3.3% of the representation in the senate.


Nominal - 2020-12-01

(3.3% of THEIR representation)


Crackersmack - 2020-12-01

Any individual senator, even Bernie, can force a vote on anything they want. McConnell's cooperation is not needed. The reason that this is never done is because the precious 'norms' of the Senate are too valuable to violate even if it means staving off an economic collapse.

Also the majority leader can eliminate the filibuster with 51 votes at any point. The senate being an obstacle to progress is really just part of the political theater that we're all subjected to.


Crackersmack - 2020-12-01

also: fuck Colbert


Hazelnut - 2020-12-01

Shut up Ashtar, nobody believes your bullshit including you


Crackersmack - 2020-12-01

You don't have to trust me to recognize basic facts about how the senate works.


Scrimmjob - 2020-12-01

He doesn't understand the senate because he's a stupid fucking bong. Also Colbert better start filling out his resume now that trumps out of office.


Hazelnut - 2020-12-01

Cute 4chan phrase, but no, I'm American and know my Constution just fine.

Oh hey, remember when Crackersmack / Ashtar spent all year gloating about how Trump was going to win re-election. Yeah.


Crackersmack - 2020-12-01

Yeah Trump lost and all you had to do to beat him was almost lose the House, and also guarantee Republican sweeps in 2022 and 2024.

And Biden's first act in office will be to sign a covid relief bill that contains both immunity for employers and *no* further stimulus payments. So basically nothing is different from Trump. Good times.


Hazelnut - 2020-12-01

Said the zero-credibility troll who doesn't believe his own bullshit


Nominal - 2020-12-01

Sorry, brain fart. The difference between most and least populous state now is SEVENTY to one, not 40:1.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2020-12-02

Of all these late-night guys, Colbert, who has made thumbing his nose at Trump his brand more than anyone else, is really benefitting from not having an audience. The Late Show had evolved into a FUCK TRUMP rally, with the audience cheering more than laughing at Colbert's burns. There's nothing morally objectionable about a Fuck Trump rally, but its pretty tedious to tune into every night. It feels a lot looser and funnier now, with some guy, or maybe Stephen's wife, occasionally laughing off camera. It reminds me of the Daily Show from the Craig Kilborn days.

Colbert was always a great interviewer. Back at Comedy Central, he could interview a historian, or maybe an economist, get some good solid discussion and still play his conservative pundit character. It could be pretty impressive. When I talked to my father about Colbert as an interviewer, a retired reporter he simply said. "He's prepared."

I thought of this while watching Colbert's recent interview with Obama. He probably got some help from his staff, but Colbert really has a commanding knowledge of the contents of Obama's recent memoir.


Nominal - 2020-12-02

Studio audiences should stay forever gone.


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