Trump is fat and elderly so he's probably going to die quickly.

Honestly, it saddens me to see him go completely fucking crazy.

Funny, I feel the same about most of his party

I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that the GOP will focus on installing rabid party loyalists to top elections positions in swing states to make sure only the right votes are counted.

oh yeah they're going to learn all the wrong lessons from this and just get exponentially shittier

and transcript:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-ca ll-transcript-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/2768e0cc-4ddd-11eb-83e3-3226 44d82356_story.html

I like that in the midst of this batshittery, he paused to compliment Ryan Germany on his last name.

What scary is that he sounds no different or any more informed than the Dale Gribble types I know.

If I'd gotten a jar in 2016 and thrown in a penny every time I thought 'Jesus, there's no way anyone can just shrug off this shit' I'd... probably need a lot more jars.

The GOP care about power, not process. The democrats have the opposite problem.

The Democrats' two biggest problems are:

1 - "If we upset the moderate & undecided voters, they might vote Republican."

2 - "If we win, we have to actually do something and can't blame our inaction on Republican obstruction."

I mean, logically those SHOULD be the two problems of any serious political party. The problem with the Republicans is they've abandoned all pretense to seriousness:

1. If we allow all the votes to be counted, we can't win
2. If we make any attempt at reason or sanity, the 2024 hopefuls trying to "out-Trump" each other will howl for blood

Nope. Same old scam he’s been using his whole life.

Sure were ‘a lot of people saying’ that Obama was a secret Muslim Kenyan, and all the ‘unbelievable things’ his private investigator found on Obama!

If trump wants to lie (and when doesn’t he?) or just talk out his ass without any evidence, he just says “people are saying” blah blah. It’s a con. As long as he keeps repeating the con convincingly then a bunch of idiots think he has secret information.

I think he's so bought into the POWER OF POSITIVE THINKING that he has actually kind of convinced himself that he is not lying. Or rather, that "truth" is not any reflection of objective reality, but what's accepted as real. I think "alternative facts" was a phrase used in earnest.

Gonna agree with Exy here. I think that Trump, though his thinking is mostly dark and conspiratorial, does tap into a part of the American character that think that believing in something -- or in yourself -- hard enough will basically make things real.

As for the rest of it, I think he believes in what he believes when he needs to believe it. True and false are not qualities that bother him all that much.

Truth and falsehood do not exist for him. His words do no refer to states of the world, they are tools to manipulate others. He does not understand that other people are not like this, he just thinks they're suckers.

Self delusion is a nice theory but again I refer to the times he literally lies about things he knows are false in the same vague way, like all the shocking evidence his fictional private investigator found on Obama. How he really wants to but can’t release tax returns because of audit. Etc.

Now sometimes the “people say” thing is because he picked up some trash idea on Twitter or alt right media but can’t say he’s making policy decisions because of rando tweets. But also it’s used when he can’t think of anything credible to say in his defense on an issue, so “lots of people” agree with whatever stupid thing he said or did.

He’s been a conman for most of his adult life, he openly admitted to that on multiple occasions. Don’t excuse his genuine shitty behavior and personality as some psychological defect.

SolRo can't accept that people are capable of self-deceit because then he'd have to look in a mirror. But yeah: Trump & his followers have so unmoored themselves from factual truth that the concept as we know it doesn't exist for them.

He sounds no different from right wing conspiracy peddling like Alex Jones. Just ranting and ranting. Repeating the same debunked theories over and over.

Now that I've read most of the transcript (what a slog), I'm leaning more towards exy's take. He just has no interest in hearing anything that goes against what he wants to be true. He has no interest or concern in finding out the objective truth, just in what he wants to be true.

I still think he personally believes every lie that he's spitting out of his mouth and that is what makes him so compelling to so many of his followers.

Ossoff is a prig, but Warnock rules

Sure, but better him than either of the RepubliKKKans

And I forgot to press reply, my below comment is for you Cena...I'm a moron :/

I'm an absentee military voter.