That's a hell of a discussion that I've never really seen come up. Those batteries don't last forever, they're not designed for easy swappability, and disposal is gonna be an issue. My prediction is that they'll come up with a nice proper way to dispose of them, which is expensive, and plenty of people will just torch 'em because it's quick and easy.

Hell, I've been wondering for years what will become of those infotainment screens that are in every new car when the makers stop supporting them. Just a useless black screen for some, and a serious software vulnerability for others.

Like all those first gen lithium laptop batteries you keep not hearing about exploding in closets

Crab; most EV battery packs will be salvaged from vehicles, either for the good cells still in them or for their materials. You will not see an EV battery rotting in a junk yard.

Hey, that's good news. I figured since lithium ion stuff hasn't been around all that long, everyone's just gotten away with "Everyone's using it, maybe bad shit will happen in 50 years but who cares".

yep they found a nice easy way of disposing of them, and conveniently it requires destruction of the car, which eliminates a lot of that pesky used car market that cuts into new car sales

same thing with accidents; with Teslas the method that fire departments are instructed to use to disable the battery (cutting through the C pillar with a circular saw) also totals the car

You’re throwing out so much convoluted FUD.

First you say cars in junk yards or barns will explode then say cars will be destroyed the instant the first owner sells it or something? Destroying salvaged cars is recycling, it doesn’t affect the used car market because salvaged cars are to be destroyed.

The Tesla thing sounds like high voltage emergency disconnect wire cut instructions for times when other locations are inaccessible, ie the car is on fire or lives are at risk. Cars have multiple locations to carry out that disconnect.

By the way I’m a high voltage certified auto mechanic…and you’re getting your information from where?

lol

sorry that you are so mad for whatever reason, but what I'm saying is that the current incarnation of electric cars has both inherently unstable batteries AND in the case of Teslas are designed to use that inherent instability to limit the secondary resale market of Teslas, which is something that daddy musk doesn't like

admittedly I just have a loser BSME, I don't know what a "high voltage certified auto mechanic" is, does that mean you have the ASE cert for hybrids?

also i'm a bouncer

OF COURSE he's an engineer

what a fucking stereotype

stemlords are the guys with graduate degrees, I was just a machinist for so long that I figured I might as well get the paper and move into the airconditioned part of the building

I’m just a car lot bouncer, but I am name-brand trained and I’ve been at it for a while now.

Anyhow your paranoid delusions about Tesla cut points are unfounded. They all have a primary emergency cut loop under the hood (which is replaceable) and some early models had a secondary cut section for a saw on the lower rear door frame, which is repairable.

I don’t like Tesla’s and especially loathe musk, but there’s no need to make up or spread others FUD about EVs.

Does electrician pass the bouncer test when your talking about electric cars? So much really dumb FUD coming out of Crackersmack. 1) If the fire department is taking the saw to your car to extract you, it's already totalled. And your least concern. 2) You know how dielectrics in batteries fail? Slowly! And as they slowly fail they allow charge to slowly pass through the barrier, draining it and rendering it inert. Your barn car (that you abandoned with a full battery I guess?) will never become a bomb. It'll be expensive to rehab and make drivable again... Just like gas car.

Christ. A machinist with just enough knowledge to think he knows everything.

Also, congratulations on becoming a car sparky SolRo.