the "Bataan Self Guided Tour"

It's domestic terrorism with no social cause behind it other than enforcement of white supremacy

Hey socky, your neocon is showing through the act.

poetv needs a feature that automatically turns the text of your missives to pink

"iT's dOmEstIc tErRorIsm"

it's a bunch of racist cops that let a bunch of racists chuds into the capitol, and when they got in there they didn't even know what to do, not exactly the worst thing that has ever happened in that building

Sure the majority of rioters were clueless. That's because a mob isn't an intelligent weapon. However, there were groups among the mob that did have plans. Oath keepers, 3%ers, Boogaloo Boyz amongst them had specific plans to capture or kill members of the legislature.

This was planned. These groups were discussing it online. They intended to change the results of the election. How you can keep lying to yourself that it was just shenanigans is beyond me.

the protest was planned but none of them expected the cops to just let them into the building, you can tell by the fact that they didn't do anything, they didn't even steal anything sensitive

"they intended to change the results of the election" really? how? by taking the speaker's lectern?

By taking congressmen hostage. I mentioned that. They wanted to capture and or kill members of congress and the vice president.
Even if they were all clueless idiots, this is still a national security threat as the next time they'll be better armed and organized. Ruby Ridge inspired the Oklahoma City Bombing, and this will embolden and inspire other anti-government nuts.

insurrections usually don't end with "everyone getting bored and leaving"

the insane hyperbole around this sounds like it's being used to drive new domestic terror legislation, which should be scary considering the Biden administration recently categorized anti-capitalism as a "terrorist ideology"

They left because there was nothing more they could do. The congress people escaped.
We've been ignoring domestic terror for too long. We can't get anything done on domestic terror, because your typical domestic terrorist sounds a lot like your typical Republican. The Republicans cry that they're being targeted, but they're ones waving their guns around shouting 1776!

If we don't take this coup seriously now, it'll just be treated like a rehearsal. The Nazis didn't stop when the Beer Hall Puscht was suppressed.
https://news.yahoo.com/dhs-report-warns-of-possible-july-4th-milit ia-gathering-in-washington-dc-105928518.html

nobody "escaped", most congressional offices aren't even in the capitol building, something that would have been understood if there actually was any kind of organized plan to kidnap reps

and "domestic terror" isn't a real thing, "terrorism" in general is barely a real thing in North America, the only purpose for this manufactured narrative about domestic terror (and a supposed increase in violent crime) is to pass legislation that makes the coming protests over wages, healthcare, police brutality, evictions etc etc etc even more criminalized

Just copy/paste the GOP talking points about how there was no riot and it was just like a tourist visit.

There's a huge difference between cracking down on protests and investigating and arresting people planning to violently overthrow this country. The problem is that the GOPers typically love painting them with the same brush to crack down on the protests.

it's not just GOPers, for chrissakes you people just elected the architect of our mass incarceration crisis, you can't possibly be delusional enough to think that he would be cracking down on anybody *except* Black folks and the left in general no matter what justification they use to pass new domestic terror laws

What we did is removed a fascist who wanted the Army to go into cities and shoot protesters.

You’re a disingenuous piece of shit.

You sound like a Insurrection apologist CS..

COME ON MAN🤣🤣

functionally what is the difference between an army and the Capitol Police (or any other US police agency) with $2 billion to spend?

You’re functionally retarded

One "side" rioted after police brutally cracked down on protests against community members being summarily executed in the street.

The other side rioted because their fat orange retarded messiah lost an election by 7 million votes.


No one but active Trump supporters or the most trite of /pol trolls could ever claim they're both the same whataboutism.

"functionally what is the difference between an army and the Capitol Police (or any other US police agency) with $2 billion to spend?"

lo-fucking-l

you are quite possibly the dumbest motherfucker

yeah I'm glad we got rid of Trump and replaced him with somebody that is totally opposed to police brutality, good job guys

"it's a bunch of racist cops that let a bunch of racists chuds into the capitol, and when they got in there they didn't even know what to do, not exactly the worst thing that has ever happened in that building"

it is pretty hard to argue with that tbh

Nice double bind, you narcissist. Ignore the Trumpers who shit on the walls of the Capitol and beat public servants with bats, because replacing him wasn't perfect and flawless. Nevermind that Black voters who know shit isn't going to ever change in their lifetime put their trust in Biden and for all the "pie in the sky" Dems who tried to ran, they have to convince Black Americans to back him because Whites are disconnected and divided.

Ignoring the problem leads to power-mad fascism, voting for the alternative isn't a drastic enough improvement to justify change. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Okay...
Ooooookay...

See I could have SWORN I watched the acting President almost literally scream "FLY, MY PRETTIES!!! STOP THE COUNT!!! ATTACK THE CAPITAL!!!" as he directly addressed his swarm of flying monkeys on live TV.

I don't think I was on drugs at the time.

It was oddly at that point a swarm of flying monkeys did indeed swoop down. Except the kind that did fly in were so cringe said acting President was repulsed by the sight of them and began to walk it back. Not because he didn't approve of storming the Capital but because 'they looked ridiculous' aesthetic-wise and he knew any battle for hearts and minds went tits up the moment Americans took a look at the lot. One can infer the President mmmmay have been expecting rank and file dressed police and members of the armed forces to show up in not clown outfits. And in force.

An outbound elected leader -called for an insurrection-. He ended up getting an insurrection from wish.com. It could have gone the other way with the actual military deciding to go for it. And when the wish.com insurrectionists showed up Mr. President actually held off officials from calling in the National Guard because he was hoping at the last minute the armed and uniformed grown ups marching to his beat would show up. Heavily armed. (Annnny day now...) In fact several of 45's lackeys in Congress seemed to have scripts already written for when these mythical soldiers arrived and called it a done deal at gunpoint. And you are going to sit there and be like "LOL YOU'RE EXXAGERATING!!!"

Seriously, bro?

Stop engaging with this little shit.

it almost doesnt even make a difference if I have cracker blocked or not because there's still this shitstorm every time he has a fascist take on something

you all keep using words like "insurrection" for vandalism and it makes me wonder just how much tough on crime shit that you'd all be willing to agree to from your politicians

This seems a good time to remind people that there are easy instructions for filtering out Crackerspam in the comments of https://tinyurl.com/dcd5fdnu

The only person I DON'T want installing that filter is JHM, because somehow he knows how to spin gold out of that shit. Everyone else just gets pulled into the quagmire. Try the filter for a week, you'll love it.

It's like an extension of the paradox of tolerance. Durrr... we can't have a free society if fascist movements to overthrow the government are suppressed.

I really hate the NYT but all of their visual investigations are crucial

The bombing of the Alfred P Murrah federal building in Oklahoma city in 1995 didn't topple the republic nor could it have done so.

But there was a dangerous movement behind it and it needed to be investigated and responded to.

The feeble insurrection of January 6, 2020 didn't kill nearly as many people nor cause anywhere near as much damage and, no, wasn't going to topple the republic, but the same movement was behind it.

This is white supremacist evangelical misogynist anti-LGBTQ fascist assholes lashing out because the world is rejecting their stupid backwards ideology.

They won't topple the republic, but they will kill and maim whole lot of innocent people if they think they can just get away with shit like this.

When Trump nearly died from COVID, they pumped him full of steroids and stem cells that are far too expensive for the rest of the population to treat themselves if they caught it.

He went around maskless afterwards and spread it to his staff to thank them, and told Americans it's fine to get COVID and nearly die despite his choice treatments being unattainable to anyone not the current US President.

Trump tried his damnedest to flip an election he lost. Anyone else in history trying to flip an election they lost would be disgraced. Trump has been disgraced so long, that it no longer matters?

So, nothing matters? He's above our laws?

He nearly killed his wife and young son with COVID. Like, he's a God damn shitpile of immorality

you all elected the architect of the most serious and destructive mass incarceration crisis ever to afflict human beings. full stop

just as an exercise, try to imagine how many man-hours of human suffering have been caused by the 1994 crime bill, which was authored by Joe Biden, who is still proud of it.

is it in the billions? trillions? a number too high to count?

now put this in context with Trump's clownish buffoonery, and maybe you can understand how ridiculous you look with you get all hyperbolic about Trump/Trump supporters

Again, this is a double bind, and old black voters picked Biden, not the users of POEtv. We went with the primary winner, which was and is better than the outsider loser Trump.

You got your fantasy, the "businessman who will run the country like a business" and it was horrific. We're going with a politician, who is now running the country the way a politician does. Same as it ever was.

lol Obama and his corporate masters picked Biden, it had nothing to do with the old conservative Black folks that Democrats like to use every 4 years

going into South Carolina, Buttigieg was leading in donations and in the polls but those same old conservative Black folks were about to flatten him for reasons that would make you uncomfortable to acknowledge, and Bernie would have taken the lead, which is why Obama stepped in

Young people can change their mind later, as their worldview is based on childish interests. Like, people used to watch Viva La Bam.