He didn't work hard as a comedian according to his contemporaries.

They also say he was always a massive asshole.

Just remember, he made it big at the same time people like Tim Allen, Ellen DeGeneres and Andrew "Dice" Clay made it big.

The bar for making it big was low for stand-up comedians was low at the time.

Standup in general ages pretty poorly and most of it makes you shake your head that people used to find it funny.

Exhibit A: The height of Eddie Murphy's career (as Seanbaby noted) was him making ordinary statements and sticking "faggot ass faggot" on the end.

That's not a fair description of Eddie Murphy's comedy at all. If all you get out of Delirious and Raw is "faggot ass faggot" then you missed the funniest long-form comedy of the 1980s.

Also, The Day The Laughter Died is a work of actual artistic talent, Dice was head and shoulders above the rest of the white comedians of that era.

1. Did he go out on the road & grind through comedy clubs? Yes.

2. He is a massive anti vaxxer asshole. I'm in total agreement.

3. He toughed it out. Many hacks fled the business.

4. I don't like his show & I don't watch it.

Maher doesn't deserve to be censored like Mr Mustache support system desires.

He's just another rich, out-of-touch libertarian. He also dated Anne Coulter, which is way funnier than any joke he's tried to write.

If Bill Maher is forced out, it's going to open season on John Oliver, who I actually care about... BUT, if he's working so hard, can't he get someone from his staff to find out something about vaccines? For me, it's not that he's wrong, it's not that he's wrong about something that turned out to be so very important. It's that he could have easily been right. If this is something he does on purpose to be edgy, or "dangerous", he's right to be afraid of you tube, they're leaving him behind. HBomberguy owned him, it probably hurts.

"Influencers" is clearly the coinage of some shitty Google person to market youtube to advertisers. It's pretty insulting to the audience, but not as insulting as Bill Maher's shtick, like Mentos, which was also constantly marketed by Comedy Central in the 90s, and also used to seem fresh back then.

No idea how you think Maher is in the same orbit as Oliver. Maher's just a fucking hack that got in on the ground floor.

>>>No idea how you think Maher is in the same orbit as Oliver. Maher's just a fucking hack that got in on the ground floor.

Well to be fair, I think he built the ground floor, but he's no longer worth watching.
At best, he's Dennis Miller for liberals. At worst, he's Alex Jones for liberals.

>>>No idea how you think Maher is in the same orbit as Oliver.

Are you kidding? They're both on HBO. They have the same bosses.

Lazy millennial career path: have to switch jobs yearly if you want a raise

Yup. This was my dad's story, if you amend retirement to an early buyout with pension. (Also he served in the army.) To his credit, he does realize things are different for his kids.

Many of the jobs they earned middle class incomes and benefits from no longer exist. My dad was an editor at the local paper.

We're so far gone, a lot of younger people wouldn't even know what a "pension" is, and would have their minds blown by the alien concept of employers providing a lifetime income after retirement.

It would seem like some impossible Star Trek sci-fi utopia.

And I don't think anything contrasts the Boomer hiring experience with current times more than the movie The Internship.

Boomers- Employers so desperate to hand anyone a well playing job, "We'll train you!"

The Internship- Worry after the interview that you'll stand out among the one hundred other candidates for a position demanding ridiculous qualifications (college degree for a bank teller! 5+ years experience for an entry level job! More years experience with a programming language than years that language has existed!)...if you're lucky! If you're unlucky, the "interview" will be a months long unpaid job slave position as you're thrown into a Hunger Games scenario with the hundred other hopefuls.


It was the most insidious "Amurica!" movie I'd seen since Forrest Gump. I almost chose to screen it for movie night, but figured it was too much of a (surface level) mainstream comedy.

That's why I tell every young person I know to just go learn a trade. Not trying to be all "Mike Rowe" or whatever because that dude's an asshole, but there are plenty of trades in super high demand, and unless you live in the middle of nowhere, you can likely get the training you need a lot easier than you may think. Before I had my BSME I had a certificate in CNC machining from the local technical school, and that was good enough to get me into a shop where I could learn everything else while making a living wage. Once I got a few more certifications and a few years experience I could work pretty much anywhere I wanted, and be treated like a respected professional during the hiring process. A machine shop that tried any of that abusive Hunger Games shit would have no employees because they can all leave and get hired somewhere else the same day. The place I am at now is great, pays above average, has a half day on Fridays, full health and dental after 90 days, gives all kinds of bonuses and perks, and we still have an issue hiring machinists because they are in such demand.