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Desc:Quagmire rapes Marge, Marge learns to like it, joke gets cut, Seth MacFarlane gets mad
Category:Cartoons & Animation, Classic TV Clips
Tags:Simpsons, Family Guy, rape, Marge, quagmire
Submitted:Portaxx
Date:03/16/09
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Comment count is 69
Prickly Pete
First I want to say that I showed this to Portaxx and then she snaked it from me and put it in the hopper. How dare her.

Second: if Marge didn't want want it, she shouldn't have been walking around in that slutty dress. And Quagmire dissapointed me by not going for Lisa too...
La Loco
Or Bart...

StanleyPain
5 stars for a hack like McFarlane getting indignant about such a shitty, shitty joke that, like all things Family Guy, is milked out to the absolutely limits of unfunnyness and anti-humor.

The battle of the two worst television comedies will rage on well into the next century!!!


Myrmidon
Pair that with the "crap scripts" rant at the end.

takewithfood
Its sad that they even admit that without this "gag", the episode sucked. This is apparently the threshold between funny and not funny for them.

CharlesSmith
They didn't say the episode sucked without it, they said it ruined the flow of the first act because instead of ending on a big laugh they ended it on exposition.

Syd Midnight
And the exposition was there purely to set up the timing for the rape joke. It's actually pretty good, but +stars for his hissy fit.

whensaidthemoon
-4 stars for Family Guy.
+4 stars for Seth McFarlane getting butthurt about this being cut.
chairsforcheap
HOW DOES THAT EQUAL 5 DUDE

Harveyjames
He started at 5?

Hooker
That's fanfiction level humour. Or worse.
Caminante Nocturno
I think both of these shows are in the same rut, but I'm going to go ahead and give this video 4 stars for shooting Lisa.

I hate her.
Camonk
Lisa should NEVER have gotten her own episodes, even when the show was funny.

Cena_mark
She should've just disappeared like Judy Winslow.

Xenocide
Wait, so there's an eight year old cartoon girl, and Camininate not only isn't in love with her, he wishes for her death?

Dammit, can I have just one month go by where I don't wake up in the damn mirror universe.

Hooper_X
Duh, Xenocide - Lisa Simpson wasn't invented by the Japanese, and as such is not a docile yet nubile pre-pubescent creepy-fuck-toy.

glasseye
He hates the idea of girls with brains in their heads.

Caminante Nocturno
Are you guys still angry about me hating that Target Women chick?

Nikon
Lisa's too god damned preachy.

biclops
Why does this sound exactly like I'm listening to Howard Stern?
Vestigial Johnson
family guy.
+1 for angry seth mcfarlane. Just 1.
Bort
Yes, that must be it. They banned the joke because it was too good.
UnderANeonHalo
I hate those little ads at the bottom of shows and when I saw this on adult swim I laughed my ass off.
lordpotato
I knew this show went way too fucking far sometimes, now I'm positive.
RockBolt
A slapfight between two shows long past their respective primes
Sick Man
(Splitting the difference on ratings because I don't need to see this.)

This is EXACTLY the kind of thing that makes me hate this show today. Forget all the lazy, reference-heavy cutaways and unrecognizable celebrity caricatures and interminable gags with no punchlines. What makes this unwatchable is that it's so casually mean-spirited it gets downright disturbing.

Gag after gag-inducing gag tries to be irreverent or transgressive but only offers hate and suffering without any actual jokes. Robot Chicken is another one that does this a lot.

It makes me downright uneasy to see people still enjoying these shows. It's like watching Irréversible in a theater where everyone else laughs.
Corman's Inferno
I've always found the misogynistic way they treat Meg pretty goddamn sickening. LOL A TEENAGE GIRL IS GOING TO JAIL FOR RAPE!

UnderANeonHalo
Boo-fucking-hoo.

wtf japan
Recently I stumbled in on my roommate watching an old Conway Twitty performance on the living room television. He had a sour look on his face. I asked him what he was watching, and he said "Family Guy." He got progressively angrier as the performance dragged on. 5 stars for Family Guy writers taking pains to punish their fans for watching this horrible show.

Oh, and the gag in this clip is profoundly stupid.
pastorofmuppets
Jesus Christ, does this ever drag on. I went into it expecting to side with MacFarlane but had to shut it off halfway through because *nobody cares*.

And yeah the Conway Twitty bit was about as funny as eating topsoil. I still watch Family Guy but amidst a sea of terrible jokes that one has always stood out to me as the moment where I realized that Family Guy doesn't need to exist anymore.
thebaronsdoctor
a.) How in god's name does MacFarlane not understand why this was cut?

b.) I just wanted to take this opportunity to say that, from what I've seen, Family Guy has one of the worst Dvd commentaries I've ever heard. I watched a couple of episodes with the commentary with a couple of friends a few years ago. We had to turn the thing off it was so bad.

Futurama gets gay guy and the ghost. Family Guy gets Seth Macfarlane acting like an autistic asshole.
Xenocide
BUT THEY MADE FUN OF US!

The Simpsons made fun of them twice, both were subtle shots which came off like good-natured ribbing. They lasted a combined total of maybe eight seconds. This shit not only goes on forever, it was followed up in a later episode by a gag where Homer is hit by a car and killed, and Peter looks at the corpse and goes "who the hell is that?"

Subtle!

I love how Seth paid an Asian prostitute to say what he didn't have the balls to.
Hooker
Just to be clear: Family Guy has always sucked. It seems to have gotten worse over time, but we're all in agreement that it's never been worth watching, correct?
HURF BLURF DUH
I admit I kind of laughed at it in its first season.

thebaronsdoctor
I will admit I liked the first couple of seasons...Of course I was fifteen at the time. I'm not sure how well it's aged

Rudy
I wanted to like it when I first saw it.

"Oh, WOW! Norm McDonald as Death! How could this possibly suck?"

"Oh I...I see..."


Gunny McRifleson
Agreed, but I watch it ocassionally. Its like junk food. Good for some cheap laughs as long as you don't watch it too much.


Rodents of Unusual Size
Yes, Seth, why would they accuse you of plagiarism? I just simply can't imagine.
zatojones
"The Simpsons took some shots at us, so I wrote a joke that involved rape and multiple murders (including infanticide) and those meanies at corporate cut it! BWAAAAAA"
snothouse
Maybe they didn't want a rape/family murder joke?
GravidWithHate
Yeah, here's James Brooks IMDB page: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000985/ I wonder why he carries more weight than Seth "The Winner" McFarlane.

HURF BLURF DUH
Just listening to his voice gives me a new understanding of why his shows fucking blow.
theSnake
(New) Simpsons vs Family Guy vs South Park

Whoever wins, I won't be watching.
Big Beef Burritos Supreme
South Park is hit and miss. When Matt and Trev talk politics or try for a surprise twist, it's embarrassing.

Big Beef Burritos Supreme
I like it, screw you all.
cognitivedissonance
MacFarlane doesn't really understand that you don't follow up accusations of plagiarism with rape humor.
cognitivedissonance
Second: What is it with guys in the media named "MacFarlane" all being talentless plagiarists?

dead_cat
Forgive me, but I fail to see any humor in this so-called joke, and I can't figure out why MacFarlane threw such a bitchfit over the network's decision to leave it out.
dead_cat
It's the MacFarlane curse:

Long, long ago, in the days before VCRs, one of the interns on the set of some gameshow messed up, and the result of his actions was that the host of the show messed up what was supposed to be the big joke of pilot episode - which was being broadcast live - by enraging him into saying what were at the time some very shocking swearwords. Because of the slip-up, the show was dropped, and the would-be gameshow host's career was pretty much ruined (or so he thought at the time. later he would find considerable success in radio.).

In response to this the man lay down a curse upon the intern - that all men who descended from him, or who shared his bloodline or his name, would either become horrible hacks and plagiarists upon turning 15, or be raped every night of their adult lives by roving packs of radioactive commie sympathizers. Predictably, since then many of the young men who bear the curse have chosen to become vile, plagiarists and hacks. And others have simply moved to Hollywood.

And that man? That man who spoke the fateful words that cursed a family tree, that cursed a NAME... the man who in so doing eventually cursed an entire nation? That man was none other than... Paul Harvey.
And now you know... the rest of the story.
dead_cat
Okay.. that was supposed to be in reply to cognitivedissonance's question. Once more I fail again.

B_Ko
I'll still give you 5 for the surprise ending.

RomancingTrain
Who was the lady? She was talking about her history with The Simpsons but then it sounded like she said that she just watched the show?
frau_eva
The ol' Mencia Defense: just try to convince people that you're not well-liked because you're "edgy", when no one likes you because your jokes suck balls.

At least South Park seems relatively aware and plays off the fact that some of their jokes are misogynist. Family Guy never goes beyond 'lolz that girl is a whore.'
Rodents of Unusual Size
The first time I saw Family Guy my friends and I were shocked by the line about hookers being already dead inside (that was the first or second episode). It was so blatantly unfunny and just offensive and purposefully so it confounded me. It's popularity irritates me because it's anti women, anti intellectual, and anti comedy. He doesn't want to put any effort into humor so it's all HEY THIS IS SHOCKING AND HEY SO IS THIS HEY LOOK REFERENCES. The material is just based on getting a reaction rather than writing something witty. That, and Seth McFarlane is So. Fucking. Taken with himself. I've never seen a TV writer so in love with hearing himself talk about his work.

I once met a guy who described this show as something "entire families can enjoy". I hate him now.

Document
My (possibly fractured) opinion: if a joke makes me laugh - no matter what the subject matter is - it has succeeded as a joke.

Another (possibly even more fractured) opinion: all really good jokes contain an element of transgression. From insult comics like Jeffrey Ross dropping one-liners that'd get him punched in any other context, to Frankie Boyle's almost exclusive plumbing of offensively macabre terrain, to Chris Morris' angry satire - all really great comics go in directions that are uncomfortable, critical but ultimately funny. And what's more: we need those comics. We need those jokes, as pressure valves, as mirrors. Some genuinely awesome material has sprung forth from satirical attacks on social norms, so I have no problem with Family Guy's choice of material.

My bone with Family Guy is that they've got the formula backwards. "Transgressive" material (I seriously hate that word, but I can't think of a better substitute) alone does not a joke make. Pointless cruelty isn't funny, getting guffawed at because you said something nasty isn't the same as earning laughter.

Family Guy's popularity isn't surprising because this type of "humor" appeals to the absolute base of comedic situations: you are presented with a situation, the situation is inverted, hahaha. It isn't "edgy", it's very safe and everyone can "get" it, simply because there's very little to "get." It IS a show the whole family can watch (I didn't say enjoy) because everyone, from age 4 to 104, can understand the construction of the jokes, which are all essentially the same joke told over and over with different characters but the same punchline. That gets boring after a while.

All the great comics have walked a thin line between bad taste and hilarity, starting off in the center and drifting towards the periphery of "acceptable" material, pushing the audience's visceral reaction inch by inch, testing the waters.

Family Guy figured out that a reaction was as good as a giggle, and just jumped the line.

That's my 2 cents.

raeshaldis
Also could be titled the Dane Cook defense. I hate all of them.

I agree that being transgressive is important, especially for great alternative comics like David Cross or Patton Oswalt. But the aspect of their comedy that sets them apart is not that it is offensive but that it makes you have to think about why something is offensive AND it makes you think about why that offensive thing is funny to you. They make you question yourself and your preconceived notions in a way that Seth MacFarlane can't even fathom, let alone attempt.

Spit Spingola
How come it's OK to rape Ryan Seacrest but not Marge?? It is because of James L. Brooks's friends in the mafia.
kingofthenothing
well, with Ryan Seacrest you can go "you can't rape the willing."

Hooper_X
Jesus christ, Seth MacFarlane, you mincing fucking toolbag. HOW DARE FOX EDIT OUT OUR JOKE ABOUT RAPE AND THE MURDER OF SMALL CHILDREN WHAT A BUNCH OF MEANIES.

(Matt Groening doesn't care about Simpsons jokes because he lives in a house made from stacks of money.)
IrishWhiskey
In comedy, you can generally be as offensive as you like, as long as its funny and/or has a point. That had neither. And its on a kids show.

The only thing dumber than coming up with this abortion, is throwing a hissy-fit when people understandably say no to it.
CharlesSmith
Do you honestly believe that Family Guy is or ever was a kids show? Really? So all animation is automatically for children?

IrishWhiskey
Of course not. But this is a show heavily watched by kids. Its THE #1 rated show for ages 12-17. That its also popular with young adults doesn't change that fact.

poopskin
I guess Seth MacFarlane finally saw that "Bart the General" thing
Corman's Inferno
SEEETH

YOOOOUUU'RREEE BREEEEAKIN' MY HEAAAAAAARRRRRTTTT

Pie Boy
this is awful and i wish i was dead
Berlusconi
Ugh.

(Pulled from youtube, but watchable here: http://mesto.com.mk/video/bc0b331ed6df7b0/ )
oswaldtheluckyrabbit
This is pretty much the least funny thing
Quad9Damage
Vomit.
Harveyjames
This is horrible, so I'm giving it five stars
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