I remember KoTOR 2 as well.

So is this going to a game that shows signs of brilliance but that's ruined by poor execution as well?

reviews say the story and gameplay is better than the original but the glitches keep it from being a perfect game

I'll pick it up in a few months once modders have had a chance to make it 5x better.

It is, honestly. I'm liking the story and complexity of the factions a LOT more than FO3. I've been keeping a mental list, and have probably found upwards of twenty to twenty five glitches in the first ten hours of gameplay. Only a handful were "have to restart this section of the game" bad. Most of them were just animals falling through the ground, or becoming unkillable while they just sit there.

I didn't get this glitch, but I wish I had. lol.

Also note: This same glitch happened in FO3 in some areas, so... it's just an oversight, and probably requires a certain set of messups to occur.

I'm surprised, I haven't encountered anything like this in the game yet.

The review I read (after I already bought it) basically said this: "It's a better game all around than fallout 3, better story, improved system, etc etc, but the graphics haven't improved since F3, so 8/10 I guess."

At any rate, I think it's pretty fun. There's more dialog options this time around, streamlined skills, more things to fight, and so on. It's funny, it feels more like a fallout than it did before they decided to ignore the "no mutants allowed" whiners.

"I've been keeping a mental list, and have probably found upwards of twenty to twenty five glitches in the first ten hours of gameplay. Only a handful were "have to restart this section of the game" bad."

See, I'd quite like a game that has cost millions and is built around an existing and developed platform to be tested. It's not a good sign when someone is accepting of so many mistakes and can blithely say 'only a few have made me need to restart.' I guess that's where modern gaming is now.. titles rushed out to meet the public demand rather than loving crafted titles occasionally delayed to make sure that they are as perfect as they can be.

Wow, that was a serious paragraph, I apologise.

Yeah, totally, it's not like the good old days of gaming. Like with Fallout and Fallout II. Those games never let time constraints interfere with having glitch-proof, well crafted gameplay.

Videogames nowadays are ridiculously complex to the point where they utterly dwarf entire operating systems from a decade ago. People are still finding bugs in games years after their release, so time spent playtesting something like Fallout to the point of being truly bug-free quickly approaches infinity.

Yeah, but there's a happy medium between "playtesting for infinity" and "not even playtesting enough that you get rid of frequently occurring glitches."

In many cases the publisher will force the developer to truncate its testing schedule in order to get the game out by the holidays or whenever, and the result is a game that could have been great but instead just doesn't work.

yeah but c'mon!...the game intro??? Doesn't take a whole lot of test time to nail that one.

There are certain programming practices/auditing techniques that reduce the number of bugs. They take more time and effort to write the code, but the program is more solid so less quality assurance and testing is needed. Of course, programmers are, by nature, lazy and game companies want to ship as fast as possible; the less time you develop something means fewer costs. Fewer costs mean greater profit margins. So, essentially, games will always be as buggy as consumers will tolerate.

As a future ex-southern Nevada resident, I'm looking forward to seeing if I can nuke my local DMV.

And for any automated NSA internet-watching software: I forgot to mention that I was intending to get this game regardless. Hence the last sentence in the previous post.

Please don't throw me in Gitmo. :(

They don't want to, but publishers can't miss deadlines without serious consequences.

Bugs are prioritized. When the game goes into alpha, let's say two months before it has to go gold, every little bug will be fixed (A,B, C, and D level bugs). One month to go, only A and B level bugs. Two weeks, only A. A is something that is totally unshippable.

Something like this cutscene would be a B. It doesn't stop you from playing the game but it looks like absolute shit.

You can ship the game with bad art.

THE SUN IS AMAZING ON MY SKIN

Agreed. Adding in those extra head spins sorta made it not as cool after the first.

(I made it out of the doctor's office on the second try)

That's what I was thinking. Are we sure those are glitches?