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Rodents of Unusual Size - 2012-07-27

some commentary from the directors here:


memedumpster - 2012-07-27

Three directors and one is a Wachowski, this movie died in pre-production.

Rodents of Unusual Size - 2012-07-27

Tom Twyker directed Run Lola Run.

As for the Wachowskis, I think the Matrix trilogy fell apart at the end, but it still has merit and I think that this will eclipse those movies dramatically. It looks like they did a phenomenal job with it, and made something amazing that they can be proud of.

baleen - 2012-07-27

The Matrix trilogy is awful cut-and-paste Robert McKee paint by numbers writing. It is HORRIBLY written from a screenwriting angle, and the premise itself is just absurd. Let's not stoke that fire...

Anyway, I'm much more depressed that the guy who directed Hangover II is directing the movie adaptation of Hyperion, one of my favorite science fiction novels.

Yup. Life sucks.

Rodents of Unusual Size - 2012-07-27

baleen, that's awful. I adore the Hyperion books and I hope he walks away from the project and lets someone else do it. Or that the studio replaces him.

crfog - 2012-07-27

Not going to take sides in this whole Matrix debate, but Agent Smith even hops into this trailer at 4:26. My brain immediately thought "Mr. Aaanderson...".

poorwill - 2012-07-27

I know nothing about the book, but this looks like a hot mess. I'll check the book out.

fatatty - 2012-07-28

Two of the directors are Wachowskis. One of them is a girl now.

As for the movie I think it's great to see a ballsy ambitious attempt at a story like this, and am glad to see a big budget film that's not a sequel or a reboot. I'm rooting for it, and I hope they pulled it off.

Hooker - 2012-07-28

Baleen, you have got to be the most reductionist, everyone-successful-is-a-hack person I've ever encountered. I don't dislike you for it, but my God.

memedumpster - 2012-07-27

I was hooked on this trailer immediately (never heard of the book or the story), then "from the creators of the Matrix trilogy" popped up and I yelled in anger involuntarily at my screen and shut it off.

Five for soul crushing fucking evil.

Rodents of Unusual Size - 2012-07-27

I know how you feel. This is my favorite book. I didn't want them to have anything to do with the movie adaptation but from what I've seen here and from the interviews they've done they really paid attention to the story. And more importantly, they didn't write the original novel, which was nominated for the Booker and Nebula awards.

I am so happy that they made it work and that it looks like they've become much better directors.

Millard - 2012-07-27


Millard - 2012-07-27

Er, misreply.

memedumpster - 2012-07-27

If that was a reply to me, the Matrix sucked even when it was cool to like it, this movie will also suck because a Wachowski touched it. You can lie to yourselves, but we all know it's true.

Rodents of Unusual Size - 2012-07-27

I thought it was true but I was wrong. I think it could be a Best Picture contender.

Dr Robot - 2012-07-27

Wait, so what's wrong with V for Vendetta? And the stars are for Tykwer. Run Lola Run is one of my favorite films and I really hope this does well for his sake. And that he makes more good movies.

kamlem - 2012-07-27

"Hugh Grant reappearing throughout the ages as "incredibly evil" people, including a vicious cannibal..."


SkeletonMichelle - 2012-07-28

Cloud Atlas might be my favorite novel of all time. I was not optimistic about a film adaptation because I think a big part of what makes the novel so incredible is Mitchell's use of language--as you can tell from watching the trailer, the story leaps between characters and eras, and in the book, each strand of the story brings with it a narrative voice that's utterly unlike any of the others, and there's no way any film can provide a substitute for that. But after seeing the trailer and considering the work of the Wachowskis and Tykwer, who, love or hate their work, are certainly among some of the boldest filmmakers of our time, I am cautiously optimistic that the movie might be as daringly cinematic as the novel is daringly literary.

Ursa_minor - 2012-07-28

Wow, M83 finally finds something appropriately epic to put their/his music to.

dairyqueenlatifah - 2012-07-28

Never read the book, but this looks like yet another pretentious, all style, no substance film, a la Suckerpunch, The Black Swan, Big Fish, The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus, Hugo, etc.

Seeing as I watched all those films based on well edited trailers alone, I'll probably watch this too.

Ursa_minor - 2012-07-28

jesus christ speaking of pretentious

Rodents of Unusual Size - 2012-07-28

Big Fish is my favorite film of all time!

Aelric - 2012-07-28

Suckerpunch sucked objectively, Black Swan was not for everyone, Big Fish is flawed but still firmly in the good camp, Parnassus was a hot mess, Hugo was a gorgeous love letter to the origins of film you heartless fuck.

Riskbreaker - 2012-07-28

Sucker Punch is a pretentious film? Really? That thing always presented itself as a glorified nerd fantasy, like, the kind of movie Japan makes direct to video, just with extra flashy CGI. Black Sawn was basically a live action version of Perfect Blue.

Ursa_minor - 2012-07-28

Hugo: All style, no substance. Seriously?

Rodents of Unusual Size - 2012-07-28

Oh also, Black Swan was a masterpiece. I'm shocked anyone didn't like it. It's the only major film about ballet that attracted a large male audience.

dairyqueenlatifah - 2012-07-28

You guys are so funny.

Also, for Aelric and Ursa_minor:


I'm not the only heartless fuck here. PoETV hated Hugo before it even came out.

Hooker - 2012-07-28

poeTV hates everything. poeTV is overly-angry.

WHO WANTS DESSERT - 2012-07-28

This looks more like Speed Racer Wachowskis than Matrix wachowskis, I'm all in.

Riskbreaker - 2012-07-28

I'm no fan of the Wachoskis, but i think people here go into hyperbole when they trash some stuff. Just in the same way Final Fantasy 13 is more mediocre than terrible, the matrix sequels were highly shallow movies with fancy effects, bad but no "worst thing ever". Inb4 "the first one sucks too", at least that movie felt with a purpose, the sequels were two nerds locked in a room with too much mountain dew on their bodies.

What actually bothers me about this one is Tom Hanks and Halle Berry, both bad to terrible actors, and with zero chemistry between each other. All i could think while watching this trailer was "look at that fucking wig Hanks has, and look at that one!"

Rodents of Unusual Size - 2012-07-28

I think they actually were having a lot of fun giving him bad hairdos.

As for Berry, I am not a fan of hers, but I am keeping an open mind. I am hoping this film is the film that sort of is the exception for her outside of Monsters Ball. Also she made a badass movie recently where she plays a shark hunter who takes a millionaire out to swim with great whites...it looks cheesy but in an awesome way.

Modern Angel - 2012-07-28

I don't know anything about this except the trailer and it looks stupid

theraygunwing - 2012-07-28

Yeah, I only got about 45 seconds in. I haven't read the book, but it looks pretentious (and I'm not one to use the word pretentious in the typical American manner, that is, as an anti-intellectual insult, I believe I'm applying it correctly here). The original New Yorker review:

"Mitchell’s virtuosic novel presents six narratives that evoke an array of genres, from Melvillean high-seas drama to California noir and dystopian fantasy. There is a naïve clerk on a nineteenth-century Polynesian voyage; an aspiring composer who insinuates himself into the home of a syphilitic genius; a journalist investigating a nuclear plant; a publisher with a dangerous best-seller on his hands; and a cloned human being created for slave labor. These five stories are bisected and arranged around a sixth, the oral history of a post-apocalyptic island, which forms the heart of the novel. Only after this do the second halves of the stories fall into place, pulling the novel’s themes into focus: the ease with which one group enslaves another, and the constant rewriting of the past by those who control the present. Against such forces, Mitchell’s characters reveal a quiet tenacity. When the clerk is told that his life amounts to “no more than one drop in a limitless ocean,” he asks, “Yet what is any ocean but a multitude of drops?”

And here's the last paragraph of the NYT review:

"To write a novel that resembles no other is a task that few writers ever feel prepared to essay. David Mitchell has written such a novel -- or almost has. In its need to render every kind of human experience, ''Cloud Atlas'' finds itself staring into the reflective waters of Joyce's ''Ulysses.'' Just as Joyce, in the scene that takes place in the cabman's shelter, found the hidden beauty of cliché-filled prose, so Mitchell does with his Luisa Rey story. Just as Joyce, in the late scene in which Bloom and Dedalus finally sit down together, explored the possibilities of a narrative driven by interrogation, so Mitchell does with his ruthlessly grilled ''fabricant,'' Sonmi-451. ''Cloud Atlas'' is friendlier than ''Ulysses'' but far less fallibly human. If Mitchell's virtuosity too often seems android, one suspects this says less about his achievement and more about the literature of formal innovation. This is a book that might very well move things forward. It is also a book that makes one wonder to what end things are being moved."

It's very typical in the US among people who read literature (or what they consider to be literature) to admire Ulysses, but to never even bother attempting to understand Finnegan's Wake. It's a culture therefore that celebrates good technique and polite ambition but cannot recognize real genius, and it is for those great works of art which it cannot understand that it reserves the word "pretentious" (used incorrectly).

theraygunwing - 2012-07-28

I should add that this was not a response to dairyqueenlatifah, who was using the word "pretentious" totally correctly.

theraygunwing - 2012-07-28

it's more a reaction to American journalists who review crap like Cloud Atlas

theraygunwing - 2012-07-28

(well, not just American journalists, but to me, and to the majority of cultured people in the world, the US represents the epitome of vulgarity and anti-intellectual sentiment)

fatatty - 2012-07-28

I dunno you sound kinda pretentious.

Ursa_minor - 2012-07-29

well well well, looks like we got ourselves a reader

Maru - 2012-07-28

Tree of Life for the plebs.

oswaldtheluckyrabbit - 2012-07-28

The book is awful. Pastiche is not literature, and Russell Hoban (Riddley Walker) should have sued David Mitchell's ass off.

kanyakumari - 2012-08-01

The Fountain with a better budget and story.

BorrowedSolution - 2014-06-01

I enjoyed this movie. One of very, very few sci-fi flicks that didn't make me tumescent with rage.

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