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Maru - 2013-03-31

Yeah, fuck those guys.

Maru - 2013-03-31

the nyt can suck a dick too though

Ursa_minor - 2013-03-31

Yeah - more with Vice on this one.

simon666 - 2013-03-31

Thanks for the embeddable version, Maru.

Maru - 2013-04-01

yeah, just remember to delete the "s" in https. that's why these videos aren't embedding.

baleen - 2013-04-01

Shane Smith makes good docs. David Carr has snorted so much cocaine in his lifetime that he probably funded at least one West African genocidal push through Sierra Leone.

simon666 - 2013-04-01

Shane Smith's docs are good, but Smith's insinuation that the Times is out of touch with what's 'really' going on in Liberia is boneheaded. To be fair, I think Smith wasn't totally thinking through his position and given time to reflect, he would have acknowledged the legitimacy of Times reporting on Liberia. However, I think what is telling from Smith's comments is that he presupposes VICE gets the 'real story' ipso facto by not being a mainstream institutional brand. Carr corrects Smith's assumption in a straightforward, confident way, which is interesting to see in itself. Smith backs away from his insinuation, saying he is not a journalist to which Carr responds, "Clearly." It's an interesting dynamic to watch the 'out of touch' journalist subordinate the 'in touch' VICE CEO so quickly.

Maru - 2013-04-02

It's that frat boy/jock instinct that responds immediately to male authority.

kamlem - 2013-03-31

Something tells me David Carr's typing style hasn't changed since the typewriter age.

Chocolate Jesus - 2013-04-01

I don't care what this is - Fuck Vice.

dairyqueenlatifah - 2013-04-02


Chocolate Jesus - 2013-04-03

Vice is media for those without a point of view, or the ability to cultivate one.

It's glib and superficial like the frat boys who create / consume it.

snothouse - 2013-04-01

I used to work for those fucks.
It was the worst job I've ever had, and I've cleaned camp showers in Texas in the middle of Summer.

kingarthur - 2013-04-01

Their masturbatory ode to libertarian-ism a while back would lead me to believe Vice would be a terrible employer.

kingarthur - 2013-04-01

That said establishment journalists are usually just as guilty.

baleen - 2013-04-01

Are you kidding? Being a lower rung at the NYT is slave labor and you're treated like shit. It's called working as a nobody in New York.

Paracelsus - 2013-04-01

And never the twain shall meet. I don't care for VICE that much, but they have every right to piss all over established journalism any time they want. So does everyone else. Grow up, Carr.

snothouse - 2013-04-01

I think Carr's point was more one of Smith's "I AM THE TRUE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE" soapbox.

Aelric - 2013-04-01

This is the wolf-man vs Dracula. Ain't no good guys here, just two monsters fighting it out to see who gets to terrorized the Transylvanian hamlet.

memedumpster - 2013-04-01

Any business that holds meetings in a live room with no acoustic dampening is Mickey Mouse and should not be taken seriously. I know that seems like a downright random judge of the business, but it's amazing how little things like that indicate a system wide incompetence.

MissLadyArtemis - 2014-03-29

Agreed. It's the important little details which add up to major impressions of neglect and/or incompetence. Would you eat at a restaurant with unclean bathrooms? (I hope not)

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