Oh my god!

Now I am stalking her. Thanks for the tip!

Who?

He means Jesus's mom-- HE KNEW HER PERSONALLY, AN INDICATION OF HIS ADVANCED AGE.

I think this performance is horrible not because she's a skank or something, but because it was so talentless and boring.

Yeah, it isn't offensive because it's too sexy. It's offensive because it is trying so bloody hard to be sexy and just comes off desperate and terrible.

I'm right there with you rafiki.

Plus, Gene Simmons showed more tongue, Mick Jagger gyrated as much, and Ozzy had far worse props than a foam finger. But I guess slut shaming only goes for girls.

The tongue thing was really weird, though. I give zero shits about the sexuality angle; it was just awkward.

There are plenty of people that would have been way worse, Gene Simmons, GaGa, Niki Minaj, the list is nearly endless.

It may not be fair, but Miley gets a lot of extra scorn because for years she was passed off as a Disney star and a 'role model' for little kids everywhere. No one has ever tried to claim KISS or GaGa was such, so they get a LOT more leeway with this kind of thing?

Is it fair that someone gets so much extra scorn for previously being a child star? Probably not, but try explaining how fair it is to the legion of pissed off parents who just spent hundreds of dollars on Hannah Montanah back to school supplies.

Awkward sex is awkward agreed.

But the cultural appropriation people need to google pawgs and whootys. Twerk has existed multiculturally since before worldstar, if anything, Miley has probably curbed it's usage. Yes I know about these things don't judge.

YEAH NON-ISSUES ISSUES!

Cyclops Sour Girl bears.

Like an autistic recluse whose only knowledge of women came through hardcore pornography tried to teach an alien how to be sexy.

Rita corny, Michael.

Maybe it's just plain shit, Stan.

I actually am embracing this new generation of hipsters. They're not trying to be ironic at all - they damn well mean it.

But give her credit for the scene of an army of dancing pedobears mugging and staring at her mawkish caricature of sexuality. Inasmuch as anything is trying to be said...

Well, regardless, this is the official moment where I am "old" I guess. I don't get this shit at all.

Most cohesive rage against this disgrace:

http://groupthink.jezebel.com/solidarity-is-for-miley-cyrus-12 03666732

I don't know if any article so full of strawmen and that makes so many references to Trayvon Martin and assumptions in regards to a girl occasionally shaking her ass on MTV can really be considered "cohesive".

It isn't irony. Nobody is making shit to be ironic or random. Nobody is dressing god awful to be ironic. Nobody is acting idiotic to be ironic. They make shit, dress god awful and act like idiots

Yes, exactly. I didn't say this article was good.
I was citing it as an example of "what's got everybody pissed off." Jezebel is full of annoying people. She does make a few good points, but tanks her argument in other areas with, as you pointed out, strawmen.

Got it. My apologies then for apparently misunderstanding.

As a side note, I left a polite question and opinion on her piece. I asked her who would control the "black filter" of culture under which white people were permitted to borrow said culture. It was deleted.

Jezebel is so fucking self-righteous.

Talentless pop tartlet makes some piece of shit performance that is so lame everyone basically felt embarassed for her, the logical reaction is to write a long super-serious article about racism and inter-sectional feminism.

Can someone explain to me how "Race" plays into this? I keep hearing this and I'm at a loss to understand it because no one will explain it to me without throwing 50 links to Jezebel blogs or some shit.

Twerking is a part of black culture and not something for white people to steal and bastardized. Alternately I've heard that twerking is a sacred part of black culture because it is based on African fertility dances.

See above.

http://groupthink.jezebel.com/solidarity-is-for-miley-cyrus-12 03666732

People can't explain it without linking to someone else's opinion because the idea that this was "a minstrel show" (and I've seen it called that) is beyond stupid and racist itself. Don't forget: only black people can do "black people things". Like play the blues or jazz or breakdance.

I don't think it's so much arguing that white people can't do black people things but the problem that there's a history of white Americans loving black culture while hating black people and doing everything possible to separate the two. The "minstrelsy" accusation comes from that history of white people profiting off of black culture while leaving the black artists that created them in the dust.

If her performance had been informed by what was truly a deep and abiding affection for, say, jazz or blues, then I think it would be fine with most people. But she didn't even know who Jay-Z was a few years back, so it's much more likely that she just took the latest phenomena that's synonymous with being black in order to launch her new "edgy" image, while having no clue what music or culture it's attached to.

So while I don't think any black artists are being left in the dust by Miley's sad attempt at "twerking," it's still tacky to take use something that's associated with the underclass just to piss off your daddy.

...black people are the underclass?

Agreed, still the main point here is this was some MTV garbage made by and for stupid talentless people, so I'd say looking into it with overzealous scrutiny would be like commenting on the existential implications of two mangy dogs fighting over a week old cat turd.

"white Americans loving black culture while hating black people"

Okay, but what does any of this have to do with Miley Cyrus? Are you her diary? Do you know how she feels about black people or black culture? Is her apparent infatuation with twerking somehow indicative of either? I do appreciate the way you explained what you perceive is the problem with Miley Cyrus shaking her ass three or four times in a way generally understood to be the "underclass black" way of shaking your ass as it's certainly infinitely more reasonable and well spoken than your average Jezebel article on the subject, but I still think it's pretty out there. I'm not being facetious, by the way.

But the idea that Miley Cyrus is profiting off of this poorly thought-out and executed flirtation with this bullshit while the nation's top black twerkologists are selling blood to make ends meet (I heard Waka Flocka Flame is on food stamps) seems pretty baseless. Plenty of black people have made millions off of it. I'm pretty sure that Juicy J's "Bounce It" is an enormous hit. And since it's the domain of the uh "underclass", do they need to stop singing about it now? Or does their blackness cancel out their wealth?

There's a brand new dance but I don't know its name
That people from bad homes do again and again
It's big and it's bland, full of tension and fear
They do it over there but we don't do it here.

There's a brand new talk, but it's not very clear,
That people from good homes are talking this year.
It's loud and it's tasteless and I've heard it before.
You shout it while you're dancing on that, uhhhh...
dance floor.

exactly

Exactly. It tries to be raunchy but can't even pull THAT off.

Not slutty enough shaming.

Look who his father is.

Seriously, this happens to most child stars to the point I'm not even surprised anymore.

People are surprised because Old Media says we are. They have this bullshit down to a science; every move has been scripted and rehearsed to the point where all of us, the whole ruddy lot of us, can play our parts in this drama without missing a beat.

Even those of us whose only role is to scratch our heads and say "So what?" Old Media's engineered that, too. It's all part of the fagdance.

What does EvilHomer have against Jews?

Thank God This Guy showed up.

But are there still children in Africa?

Starving and without clitorises as always, Pope.

For You

At first I thought you meant one of these men had anally given birth to Miley.

il fiore bel, this is what I will believe from now on. Billy is the mom and Alan is the dad.

Well this reply wasn't anywhere near where it was supposed to be.

Shut up, 'batiin.

I think the only real reason that we hold on to any sort of notion of 'decency' is that it's more exciting to see something that you feel is forbidden.

You know who did notice? FEMINIST BLOGGERS.

It's just that, to me, that lady is by far and away the most noteworthy aspect of this performance, and for everybody else, she's just a footnote. I immediately went on google and tried to look up who she is, and couldn't find anything. Please, if anybody knows any info about the 7 foot lady, let me know. Thanks.

She haunts my dreams. Dat ass.