It is properly legalized in Washington.
There are 5 pot "clinics" in my neighborhood.
Marijuana is practically worthless here, and in Oregon too. That's why guys are driving to New York with trunks filled with West Coast weed.


It's sad that pot farms are hurting a few acres of wilderness in California. Fortunately easing of laws is making fly by night guerrilla farming less necessary.
How many entire bodies of water have been ruined by legal pesticides and fertilizers used for legit crops, I wonder? People talk about the horrors of cocaine business in Central America. Anybody know the legacy of Dole over the past 50 years?

/end alternet

It's true, though, the environmental impact of these "scary unregulated drug farms" is minimal compared to the environmental impact of just about everything else in our global economy. Leave it to the YT stoners to have a better argument than the pot-alarmists.

Also, fuck Mother Jones. I thought they'd be all for the budding pot revolution, but I guess when you get to pick between eco-alarmism and liberalized drug laws, their priorities are clear.

Properly legalized = federally legal for recreational use.

As long as there are concessions for home growing, like modern home brewing law.


But yeah, I have a feeling all of these growing operations combined didn't behead nearly as many small mammals as the average wheat harvest.

"Pot farmers behead small mammals" is going to be the next "Pot smokers cook their own babies", you just wait and see.

calm your paranoid-stoner-asses down.

there can be regulated legalization AND we should keep drug dealers from dumping pesticides and diverting springs.

Now look here Herbert, if they've got *Mother Jones* running damage control for The Man, then we've got every right to be paranoid.

I mean, what REALLY is the issue here? I know I'm supposed to be scared and concerned, but where is the real, quantified problem? Snitchy doesn't seem to say. Is it because renegade farmers are littering? Well, yeah, I suppose there was a bit of trash at the site, but Old McDonald didn't really have time to clean up while the DEA was busting his ass. Just going by what they're showing here (which, seeing as this is an agitprop piece, is almost certainly on the extreme end of the messes they find), it doesn't look any dirtier than your basic backyard garden, and considerably LESS dirty than your average homeless guy camp. Is the problem that pot farmers are diverting streams? OK, that might cause problems on a large scale, but it's not like the entire fucking watershed is depending on that one dinky-ass stream, and at any rate the total amount of fresh water being used here looks to be several orders of magnitude less than that used in your basic California-douchebag house, let alone a "real" farm. What's more, sure, the water they're using is "free" (OH NO they're not using Fiji Bottled Water... I guess?), but they're also not diverting any processed water from our infrastructure. If you're going to be using water to grow your hippie fun drugs, I'd rather you go organic and leave my tax-funded, labor-intensive shit water for more important things, like flushing my toilet or spraying on the neighbour's car so his door handle freezes solid during the night.

In short, Snitchy and his narc buddies failed to make a case, and until they do, the rest of us are going to mock them, cruelly and relentlessly.

Can I just call you stupid and leave it at that? You don't seem to be capable of rational thought when it comes to things you like, not to mention your tendancy to write short novels every post. It's just too tiring to read all that garbage covering over what is a dumb argument in the first place.

How about we all stop worrying about anything bad until we make a time machine and stop Hitler? Or do you think fracking is worse than the holocaust?!

I'm betting at least one Nazi doctor thought to pump Jews full of sand and water until they burst to harvest their precious gases.

You're aware that we can worry about the impacts of weed AND everything else, right? This is California too, so why would they give a damn about fracking? They don't have shale deposits like we do over here.