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Azmo23 - 2014-06-18

hnn hnn fire fiiiiiirrrrrrre
i kept a loaded gun in my babys crib and the baby heard beavis and butthead talking about guns and shot hisself
damn those cartoon idiots
if their next episode is about drugs and my other baby overdoses on the heroin and meth i store in her crib i swear to god i will sue the shit out of mtv

infinite zest - 2014-06-18

huh. I never had cable so I didn't know it was on at seven, or possibly 6 central (I always remembered being at a friend's house and it being on at 10 or maybe after..)

Still begs the question though. I live in a house with cable TV and somebody's always watching Cartoon Network. While most of the shows like Adventure Time are rated "Parental Guidance," a show like Amazing Adventures of Gumball are "7-and-up" and, if I'm not mistaken, there's an abortion joke, they set the school on fire and lock their guidance counselor in the filing cabinet, have a sometimes-psychopathic father, among many other things. I love the show, but you don't see it or other shows during the "kids" portion of Cartoon Network getting blamed for anything.

B&B, I believe, existed before the TV ratings system took effect, but there was a disclaimer before every episode. A five year-old would not understand what that means, but you might as well go after Highlights for any child who chooses Goofus' life-choices over Gallant's.

Old_Zircon - 2014-06-18

There wasn't a disclaimer until this happened, the disclaimer was a direct response to this event, as was cutting a lot of episodes and pulling a few of them entirely, and eliminating the "fire" catchphrase from all future episodes.

This marked the beginning of B&B's downward slide into being tired and unfunny.

animegurl1000 - 2014-06-18

I don't know about the show becoming unfunny after the fire incident, though it did stumble and fall hard after the movie came out.

A lot of the episodes from 1993-ish (when the fire happened) were pretty unwatchable. Even Mike Judge admitted he wasn't too pleased with them.

I'd say the series' best years were '94 and '95.

animegurl1000 - 2014-06-18

One more thing: the series for me became terrible when they started showing an entire episod at once followed by a music video, rather than an episode being broken up by two or three videos like before. They started doing that after the movie was out.

infinite zest - 2014-06-18

Ah you're right. I was about 10 when this happened.. I love 'em but my parents were the kind of parents who would meet with other parents about whether they should let us kids watch Star Wars movies because of the guns and swords. Beavis and Butthead was this sacred cow: if we were EVER caught watching it, goodbye future. So we did.

Ironically the trailer didn't have cable, and the boy had never seen Beavis and Butthead. I think that was also around the time that ILM was able to CGI fire effects like in Backdraft, and explosions/fires were therefore more ubiquitous, and in a way, cool, before the first episode of Beavis and Butthead ever aired.

infinite zest - 2014-06-18

I guess we'll always find a scapegoat though, or in the case of the Great Chicago fire, a scapecow. I wonder if disclaimers were branded into cows, that they may or may not be capable of kicking over lanterns

Old_Zircon - 2014-06-18

For me it started to lose it when it became more about the narratives than about the videos, which started not too long after The Great Cornholio. The videos were always good though, even after the show slipped. I think seasons 2 and 3 are my favorite. I'd lost it by 5.

infinite zest - 2014-06-18

Beavis and Butthead were kind of like Tom Servo Crow and Joel (or Mike depending) for me. Nice little escapism into a world that wasn't my own. Having grown up with a fairly regimented extracurricular schedule (I went to music camp, not summercamp, swim team after school, then orchestra, etc rinse and repeat) I liked the freedom that Beavis and Butthead had, staying up all night watching videos, skipping school and having absolute freedom to do anything (which usually amounted to nothing.)

I didn't want to be like them, but I was glad they were there.

Quad9Damage - 2014-06-19

To me it never got old. Even the recent 8th season was great. The point of Beavis and Butt-head was always satirizing dumbshit teenage culture and the message was effective all the way through, whether B&B were swallowing condoms full of heroin in the early days or spending two hours doing nothing while waiting for the next good thing on TV in the post-fire days.

Nominal - 2014-06-19

What?!?! Saying Beavis and Butthead went downhill after this incident is like saying the first season of the Simpsons was the best.

infinite zest - 2014-06-19

Wow. I decided to look up the heroin smuggling episode because I didn't believe it. Yup. I don't think I've seen any of those season 1 episodes actually. I also forgot how awesome the music was: The Replacements? Dinosaur Jr.? Grant Lee Buffalo? Even the criminally underrated Hazel? WAY better than anything regular MTV was probably playing at the time (except for maybe 120 minutes)

The Mothership - 2014-06-18

If my child burned down my other child, I would want someone to blame too. I would also be very sad. I'm gonna go hug my daughter now.

Beavis & Butthead still rule.

Jet Bin Fever - 2014-06-25

You're one of the most balanced poesters here. I'm glad that of everyone we live really close to each other, because if I ever ran into JHM or someone in the wild it would be a lot less pleasant than you.

The Mothership - 2014-06-25

you in Oregon dude? and aren't you a RN? Or are you a ER doctor, I forget?

Caminante Nocturno - 2014-06-18

Back when everyone persecuted you for liking cool things. It was a dark time.

dairyqueenlatifah - 2014-06-18

"My unsupervised children were able to get a lighter, start a fire with it, and burn themselves and the whole house down...

Clearly it's the TV's fault!"

Quad9Damage - 2014-06-18

Yep, I remember this exact news coverage.

I remember my parents, arms crossed, scowls on their faces, watching this as they stood in front of the television. They were iffy about letting me watching Beavis and Butt-head to begin with. This sealed it. B&B was the second thing to get banned from our house after The Simpsons.

After the fire the show was moved from 7:00 PM to an 11:00 PM time slot. In the end B&B never taught me to do or copy any stupid shit they did. They did, however, teach me how to be sneakier and which volume level was most effective.

The Mothership - 2014-06-18

Yes, television restrictions only taught me how to get closer to the TV with a lower volume.

Quad9Damage - 2014-06-19

On a slightly unrelated note, I still wasn't allowed to watch B&B when South Park first aired but I totally got away with SP because my parents weren't aware of it.

Then Bigger, Longer & Uncut came out, my parents watched it and...they liked it. What?

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