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StanleyPain - 2014-08-18

Huh, gee I wonder if they had any problems with that now-cancelled Rainbow Six game where the enemy was basically Occupy Wall Street. (because all angry young people are HACKERS BENT ON MURDERING CEOS!)

StanleyPain - 2014-08-18

Oh, and let's not for get the tremendous dishonesty with which that game was developed and marketed with the bad guys calling themselves "True Patriots" when, of course, it isn't really left-wing groups that use that kind of jingoistic bullshit to name themselves.

Smitty - 2014-08-18

We should chip in to send them a copy of Bioshock: Infinite

Caminante Nocturno - 2014-08-19

I think the reason you don't hear too many conservatives complain about Bioshock Infinite is because it's too accurate a portrayal of them and their beliefs.

SteamPoweredKleenex - 2014-08-19

However, it was still a game with problems.

Racism would be a great subject to tackle, but other than presenting it with gorgeous graphics, it didn't really say much about it. The game never really did explain why everyone was insta-hostile to you, either, unless the message is "racists are pretty much tweakers on PCP."

Caminante Nocturno - 2014-08-19

Everyone was instantly hostile to you because you had the Mark of the Beast on your hand.

SteamPoweredKleenex - 2014-08-19

It was incredible how far away they could see that thing, wasn't it?

Xenocide - 2014-08-18

Sorry Micheal Brown, but your plan to get Glenn Beck's attention by getting shot to death has failed. Maybe if you'd been a series of ones and zeroes coded unto an Xbox disc, he might have had time for you.

MongoMcMichael - 2014-08-19

Well, now I'm buying this game, specifically so I can shoot Tea Party traitors. Thanks, Glenn!

SolRo - 2014-08-19

Hardline anti-government crazy bomber ruined a slogan that their hardline anti-government crazy group would have liked to use. So unfair.

also rattlesnakes have terrible vision, and are prone to perceive any moving object as a threat and strike out wildly...great tea party symbol then.

chumbucket - 2014-08-19

"You could argue that the group is far MORE racist than.." peters out while silently censoring himself.

EvilHomer - 2014-08-19

His reaction is understandable. A lot of atheists got upset over the Left Behind games, there was some griping about the Occupy stuff that SP mentioned, GTA had the whole "kill all Haitians" fagdance, and I can't even count the number of times a game designer has been insensitive towards dragons, State Shinto, or robots. Anita Sarkeesian made an entire career out of discussing her favoured identity group's treatment in video games, and hell, none of those games even came *close* to advocating state-sponsored murder on behalf of the patriarchy. (could anyone imagine what the reaction would be like if Battlefield tasked soldiers with shooting uppity women?) And I myself was very offended by Guerrilla War, not because I had to kill Cubans but because I had to do so as Che Guevara, probably the most overrated hipster revolutionary in history (seriously, the guy was an incompetent asshole). Yet I still love Guerrilla War! I am able to overlook the flaws in it's narrative because it's a fun game, and come on, it's not REALLY Che Guevara. Lighten up, guys.

But that's just me. I can respect the opinions of people like Beck and Sarkeesian, just so long as they don't advocate ruining MY fun through censorship or moral paternalism (Lieberman, I'm looking at you), and even if I don't agree with their reaction, I can understand why they'd feel that way.

Maybe Beck could join the fun, and release a game where you get to play as a Tea Party freedom fighter who defends America against the NWO? Like a Day Z survival-shooter sort of thing, only with more riot cops and socialists. I think that would be a lot more productive than just whinging on his radio show, but again! His opinion, his call.

EvilHomer - 2014-08-19

Another thing that's worth pointing out is the fact that most games these days love their moral ambiguity. How do we know the Tea Party won't be at least partially sympathetic? For example, Bioshock is usually read as a condemnation of Objectivism, yet this interpretation doesn't really hold up to a closer examination. For example, Ryan's flaw was not that he was a Objectivist, but that he was not Objectivist *enough*. He despised free market competition and began using state coercion to accomplish his aims, just like the fat cats in Washington and Moscow. And, of course, the real villain of the game was not Ryan at all, but Fontaine, the pro-union socialist who pretended to offer the people of Rapture a more egalitarian alternative to Ryan's rule, but was, in fact, even more wicked and tyrannical than the dying visionary.

So how do we know the message here is really, "Teabaggers are terrorists"?

memedumpster - 2014-08-19


EvilHomer - 2014-08-19

Once again, meme, if you have an issue with anything I have written, I invite you to discuss it with me! If the problem is something that I've failed to understand, then I'd love ofr you to correct me! If the problem is something you've failed to understand, then I'd be more than happy to explain it in another way. But you must *articulate* your objections, identifying what they are and why you think I'm in error, or else you cannot help me, and I cannot help you.

And once again I'd like to apologize for throwing "word salad" back in your face. It was unkind of me, and, to be honest, I do sometimes wonder about your... your cognitive state. You are not a dumb man, and you clearly have an education, but you do have a marked tendency to lapse into incoherent rambling from time to time. That may just be you having fun, or that may a sign of some underlying neurological issue. Your occasional "episodes" never quite reach the level of clinical word saladry, but combined with your reluctance to positively identify which points you feel I have made in error, I hope you can understand why I strongly suspect that your "word salad" objections may stem, not from a breakdown of language on my part, but from a lack of comprehension on your part. I could be wrong. I'm not judging you, and it's not a huge problem even if it's true. But we cannot help each other unless you give me something to work with.

memedumpster - 2014-08-19


SteamPoweredKleenex - 2014-08-19

I never got the impression that Fontaine was pro-anything other than pro-Fontaine. He wanted to become the ubermensch in the end, not share the Adam with everyone else.

I don't claim to know what the author's original intent was, but it seemed to me to be more of a note of how a libertarian society can't work when there are limited resources that can be monopolized along with a need for people to, as was stated in the game, "clean the toilets."

As far as atheists having problems with the Left Behind games, I don't recall much outcry beyond the fact that a Christian game had the Christian path to victory involve some stridently un-Christian activities. A quick Google search shows me more rancor over the game from other religious groups, including the Christian sects deemed "evil" or ripe for conversion by the game (or at least, worthy of smiting by the Tribulation Forces).

Not to mention it just plain stank as a video game:
http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/left-behind-eternal-forces-rev iew/1900-6162370/

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