|Scrimmjob - 2014-12-02 |
2:04 fake mustache?
|SolRo - 2014-12-02 |
the most noticeable thing about gaming while male is the ability to turn invisible to women.
Interestingly enough, I've had some direct experience with this. Have you ever tried logging into one of these multiplayer games as a girl? It's easy enough to do, and very enlightening. I found it to be a great tactical and strategic advantage. Either men underestimate you, in which case they are easier to clobber Or they fall over over themselves pissing and snivelling to try to impress you, in which case they are easy to take advantage of.
Ladies: how can you not capitalize on all these advantages?
since most games have gone to a 3rd person view, I often play female characters just because I don't want to stare at a dudes backside for hours at a time, and I've never had my character treated as actually female.
|Caminante Nocturno - 2014-12-02 |
More like the Rush Limbaugh of video games, although I'll bet his fans don't masturbate to him nearly as much.
|StanleyPain - 2014-12-02 |
I guess I'm missing some in-joke or something here because, apart from the awkward presentation, nothing in this video is incorrect.
The joke is that suckers handed over wads of money to a hustler so that their opinions could be repeated back to them in the most patronizing way possible.
Yeah that Dave Aurini/Jordan Owen thing on Patreon is pretty ridiculous, you're right.
Great, now your feelings are so hurt that you're going to try to be clever at me.
Oh, I'm sorry...you were talking about the Tropes Vs. Men IndieGoGo thing...my mistake.
The Gamergate narrative of Sarkeesian "hustling" people out of money is so fucking hilarious. GG kids spend every waking moment sending rape threats, doxxes and general hatred in the direction of feminists, but then when the subject of the Tropes VS Women Kickstarter comes up, suddenly they're DEEPLY CONCERNED about feminists being conned out of their money. More crocodile tears, please.
Sarkeesian asked for just ,000. She got 0,000. That's not a hustle, that's people expressing enthusiasm for a cause. And it happened because a bunch of angry gamer kids decided to stage a harassment campaign against her to try and shut down her kickstarter, which ended up driving a massive amount of attention TOWARD it. The Gamerbaby master plan backfired (and in a way, continues to backfire) in the most spectacular way imaginable. That's what GG is angry about, not the bank accounts of people with social justice Tumblrs.
I'm certain the people who give Glenn Beck and Alex Jones their money would say the same things to defend them.
How does admitting to a spite donation make you look good?
I feel sad that I can't just remember you as that guy who held a birthday party for his Sakura figurine.
No wait, I fucked up again. Nocturno was actually talking about those GamerGate supporting Voice For Men folks who attempt to scam people into donating to a fraudulent White Ribbon campaign.
Did I get it right this time? Is that what you were referencing?
John Holmes Motherfucker
Anita Sarkeesian seems kind of awkward and unnatural on camera, but I'm starting to get the impression that she's an A1 classy tomato, if I may use an ironically sexist term. She makes the point over and over that she really likes some of the games she criticizes, sexist tropes and all, and that the games themselves are still to be enjoyed, since if you were to forbear all sexist culture, you'd be throwing out a whole of babies with a whole lot of bathwater. I think that's really cool of her.
The footage that the gaters drag out again and again of her telling a class that she's not a gamer (as "proof" that she doesn't like games) strikes me as representing a period of her life when she was in the closet as a gamer, because a feminist in Academia is bound to be embarrassed by these interests. I see what she's doing now as an attempt to reconcile these two great passions. I think that's just awesome. I think she's turning out to be cooler than 90 per cent of the feminists and 99 per cent of the anti-feminists.
|spikestoyiu - 2014-12-02 |
It looks like Anita lent out some of her shirts for this.
|Chocolate Jesus - 2014-12-02 |
|Urkel Forever - 2014-12-02 |
Does anyone else in this world not give two shits about the politics of video games? I mean, I like video games as much as just about anyone who isn't locked in their basement all day. But, for fuck sake's, they're just games and some people online are dicks. That's about the long and short of it.
Go outside #Gamergate people, pro and con. Go outside.
Amen, brother. GamerGate is the new Hipster: the only thing worse than being one, is hating on them.
The only way to win is not to play.
John Holmes Motherfucker
And the only thing more pointless and tedious than hating on GamerGate is hating on those who hate on GamerGate.
For me, GamerGate ended when Intel resumed advertising with GamaSutra. Nobody else is going to be fooled into doing their bidding, except themselves. The Gaters can and must continute to tell themselves that they're winning. So we're left with the dumbest, most dishonest, most repetitive flame war of all time, just rolling on and on.
It was never really about gaming, it was about the internet. Once, it was about freedom of expression on the internet. I really believe that the internet is a kinder, more mature, more inclusive place than just a few years ago. The continuiing invention of the communities of the future is the most important cultural event of my lifetime, and I like participating in the effort to make it safe, friendly, and free for everybody.
We don't "hate" you, John. We're just sort of disappointed in you.
Why can't you and the Gamergaters stop all this fagdancing, hug each other, and just be friends? I bet both sides would find that they had a lot of things in common, if only they'd take a few minutes to sit down and get to know each other better.
Is there a name for your group, Mr Holmes? I would like to draw some Pony OCs to illustrate my concept of an agnostic friendship truce, and Gamergate is pretty straightforward - he should be pimply Earth Pony with an "NES controller behind a locked gate" Cutie Mark - but fucked if I know how to equestropomorphize your group.
I'm serious. I could make up a name for you, but I'd be worried that that the name would come off sounding unintentionally ironic and less-than-flattering. :(
Also, I kind of hate to ask this, because again, I don't know much about GamerGate, and I believe the only way to remain cool, like I am, is to stay above, and out of, all this silliness. But I have read some of your shockingly neo-conservative, pro-censorship, anti-internet screeds before, so when you say you'd like to " make (the internet) safe", what precisely do you mean by "safe"? And also, is this view of yours shared by everypony within your camp, or is it purely your own idea?
I would love for you and the LamerGaters to be friends, of course, but I'd never want to see this come at the cost of your freedom to be a loudmouthed jerk.
Homer, keep John away from Chuck E. Cheese, please.
"Make it safe, friendly, and free for everybody"
Oh, fuck you, John. I tried engaging in one of your Gamergate videos months ago in a reasonable way. All I literally did was say I was worried about the hateful, reactionary tone that was becoming the norm in progressive causes. You and the other usual subjects exploded into telling me I was an MRA KKK hate group and to suck dicks in hell forever.
That's what burns me about this whole retarded shitstorm. It's the same passive aggressive motte and bailey bullshit dance to give you an excuse to engage in shitty hostile condemnation under the guise of being a nice caring guy. You're as genuine in your claim of creating safe friendly spaces as you are wanting to "just be friends" with Boxxy.
John Holmes Motherfucker
Well, Nominal, you may have been right about that, so I'm glad you didn't go off to suck cocks in hell forever. The reactionary tone in some online feminism is definitely a thing. You may remember me saying something like that when the (GROAN) #shirtgate thing happened.
John Holmes Motherfucker
Nominal, let's have a lok at this encounter you mention. Please link. If I owe you an apology, I won't hesitate.
John Holmes Motherfucker
>>We don't "hate" you, John. We're just sort of disappointed in you.
>>Why can't you and the Gamergaters stop all this fagdancing, hug each other, and just be friends? I bet both sides would find that they had a lot of things in common, if only they'd take a few minutes to sit down and get to know each other better.
Homer, I don't know how many different ways I can say this: I'm out of it. I've been out of it for a while now.
If GamerGate had succeeded in shutting down sites they didn't like, God only knows what group of entitled fanatics would have followed their example next. But that's not going to happen now, so it's not about anything. It's just people hating on each other out of stubbornness or a lack of imagination, or god knows what.
|Mother_Puncher - 2014-12-02 |
Did they intentionally avoid using "privilege"? Good move, fat alcoholic who fluctuates in weight.
|Jet Bin Fever - 2014-12-02 |
|Xenocide - 2014-12-02 |
Yeah, but, like, you can play as a girl in Pokemon now.
|Old_Zircon - 2014-12-02 |
I think this isn't a very big deal because I've got hell of not giving a shit about gaming privilege, sex and gender don't enter into it a bit.
There are a lot of really serious issues facing women (and men) in Western cultures today, political/structural and cultural, and misogyny in gaming is just one of many symptoms, and far from the most serious one. If the actual big problems are addressed, their symptoms will naturally fall away. OF course, identity politics, regardless of specific ideological underpinning, don't work this, they try to fix the underlying disease by treating the symptoms (at best). Which is why part of why the left, who for whatever reason really took to identity politics in the last few decades*, never gets shit done anymore.
What we're seeing with gender and sex issues in the media today reminds me of the crack scare in the 80s, where the collapse of already impoverished urban minority communities under Reaganomics was blamed on black people smoking crack (which was, of course, a symptom of the hopelessness of their situation, not the first cause of it).
And there really IS a sublimated undercurrent of victim blaming and infantilization of the Other present in a lot of identity politics - just because right wing pundits latch on to that, blow it ut of proportion, and use it to support all kinds of absurd an offensive prclamations doesn't mean it isn't there at all. Those "latte liberal" strawmen that people like Glenn Beck like to rant about may be a small minority, but they are absolutely real - I talk to a few of them almost every day, and a pretty high percentage of them are quite wealthy and have real political influence.
Anyhow, the whole Gamergate thing is really starting to get on my nerves, not so much because of the manchildren in the Gamergate rank and file, who are a known quantity and aren't likely to change any time soon, but more because I keep seeing so many nominal feminists and allies who ABSOLUTELY SHOULD KNOW BETTER wasting a whole lot of energy on something that is a dead end (because, like I already said, it's a SYMPTOM, and not even one of the most serious), and being whipped into a froth by opportunistic trash media like Jezebel (the "feminist" Cosmo).
I AM BUGGED... BEYOND RECALL
*I suspect this has something to do with the fact that identity politics don't pose any major challenge to neoliberal ideology and the economic forces that it's tied up with.
|Hooker - 2014-12-02 |
Unwatchable. Unlistenable. Incomprehensible. Beyond pointless. Five stars.
|John Holmes Motherfucker - 2014-12-02 |
According to "recent events' Nominal just posted something in the UrkelForever thread and so did Hooker. I Haven't read their posts, and I didn't actually read Homer's either, so I'm going to pledge.
For every allusion to Boxxy, I will donate 10 dollars to Feminist Frequency.
For every mention of Boxxy by name, I will donate 15 dollars to Feminist Frequency
For every mention of Boxxy's real name, Catie, I will donate 20 dollars to Feminist Frequency.
Deadline for payment will be February 1, 2015.
Don't let me down, boys, mama needs a new pair of hoop earrings!
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If you'd put a trigger warning on your post, this never would have happened.
|Gmork - 2014-12-03 |
I have no idea who "Boxxy" is. An Aqua Teen character?
|Hazelnut - 2014-12-03 |
Didn't watch the video; stars for the way these GG clips get an old-school fagdance going that makes me nostalgic for the old PoE forums. Remember how they always used to bitch over Israel, in this scorchingly venomous voice as if opinions on a humour web forum were really really important?
|Pillager - 2014-12-03 |
Occupy Wall Street was made a laughing stock by the SJW crowd's obsession with Identity politics over everything else.
The online atheist community is boiling with rancor thanks to radfem nonsense.
And now the humorless, shrill, corrosive scolds seek to do the same damage to a harmless pastime. Remembering what happened to D&D and Metal back the 80's, I'm not happy with the echo mob of harpies.
John Holmes Motherfucker
>>Occupy Wall Street was made a laughing stock by the SJW crowd's obsession with Identity politics over everything else.
>>The online atheist community is boiling with rancor thanks to radfem nonsense.
>>And now the humorless, shrill, corrosive scolds seek to do the same damage to a harmless pastime.
>> Remembering what happened to D&D and Metal back the 80's,
>>I'm not happy with the echo mob of harpies.
I can tell.
You suck at reading, John.
John Holmes Motherfucker
I don't think it's about reading, though I may just be stupid. Maybe I'm the only one who doesn't know what happened to D and D and metal in the 80s. It looks to me like Pillager doesn't want to write out the arguments supporting his huge sweeping historical thesis. Not only do I not blame him, I'm sort of terrified that he's going to accept the challenge, and I'll be expected to read the argument, and respond.
I guess you're right, Gmork. I DO suck at reading. Sorry about that.
JHM, I'll keep it brief & work backwards:
Comic books had Frederic Wertham.
Pen & Paper gamers had Pat Pulling.
Heavy Metal had Tipper Gore.
Computer games had Jack Thompson.
The current moral outrage over video games is just the next cycle of our spasmodic censorship wars. I'm sick of it.
Atheism? See Elevatorgate.
If you were a straight white guy, you spoke last & were basically ignored. Cultural Marxism doesn't lead to happy endings...
Occupy Atlanta Silences Civil Rights Hero John Lewis
Banishing all hetero-cis scum isn't very inclusive is it? That's why I despise the hipsters who destroy everything they touch.
|takewithfood - 2014-12-03 |
You are not helping.
|spikestoyiu - 2014-12-03 |
We're talking about VIDEO GAMES, right?
|Scrotum H. Vainglorious - 2014-12-03 |
Wow this is all kinds of 9/11 terrible.
|That guy - 2014-12-04 |
KILL ALL GAMERS
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