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StanleyPain - 2014-12-15

I actually like this Erasure song, but this video almost ruins it.

Old_Zircon - 2014-12-15

I actually like this crappy hippie art, but this Erasure song almost ruins it.

sasazuka - 2014-12-15

I'm happy this made it through the hopper. This video is mostly meaningless without the context, which I wanted to submit but it wouldn't let me because it's a CBC link (and I couldn't find it mirrored anywhere else).

http://www.cbc.ca/player/Shows/Shows/Dragons%27+Den/Pitches/ID /2369036237/

Short link: http://goo.gl/n3ap5g

DRAGONS' DEN is a TV show that is more or less the same as SHARK TANK (from what I understand, I've never seen the latter), people pitch their ideas to very rich people to secure funding if the very rich people think their ideas are worthwhile.

This is from an artist who has an idea for a movie, which sounds very new agey spiritual. Not my thing but whatever. The lulzy part is that she thinks this, whatever it is, could be an entire multimedia franchise. She says she's written it as a movie and a Broadway play, and she thinks it's worth 0 million, but she's only asking for million. Only. For a woman who's never made a cent up to this point from any of her ideas, nor does she seem to have any concrete ideas as to what she can do to actually get this movie made.

And the thing is, if she wants to do it herself, she could probably have spared herself the humiliation and applied for a grant from the National Film Board. It would only be for a few thousand dollars, but if you're doing it yourself and have a day job, that can go a long way, and, if people like it as a short, she might have a better time getting an actual studio on board to make it into something more.

But my read here is she has an idea for an animated movie but doesn't want to do any of the boring grunt work in actually getting it made.

Bonus: her presentation includes a guy playing a guitar with lyrics that seem to accurately describe her nebulous pitch: "She's living in a dream, she's living where everything should seem.... beautiful. She's living in a make-believe land where everyone understands and welcomes with open hands... anything."

sasazuka - 2014-12-15

Elevator pitch: there's two main characters, the Bright Mystic and the Woman of the Woods and there's a love story surrounding them and there's also a scene at the beginning where there is a baby dragon presented by a king to a little boy in the middle of the river.

EvilHomer - 2014-12-15

So she's taking the Wolf: the Animated Feature approach then?

oddeye - 2014-12-15

wolf had a bunch of random internet folk work on it too though, right?

PS EvilHomer, we are buddies now. For better or for worse, sucka.

sasazuka - 2014-12-15

I don't really know anything about WOLF, but, checking the website, it looks like someone had a solid script and storyboarded it out before sending it out to animators who seem to be doing some pretty nice work for an unpaid amateur production.

Anyway, while there is a donation page at the WOLF site, I don't think they're asking for million script-and-storyboard unseen.

EvilHomer - 2014-12-15

Wolf was a popular exhibit on PoE-Red; it was the brainchild of an inept animator/ unrealistic visionary who expected a masterpiece but didn't want to work at it. As oddeye said, she tried foisting her idea off onto internet people rather than venture capitalists, but otherwise it sounds like a similar story. (she never asked for million, but she did ask for free labor in the form of unpaid animators, unpaid voice actors, unpaid editors etc etc etc, all of which was, and largely still is, script-and-storyboard unseen.)

EvilHomer - 2014-12-15

Basically, Wolf is this only with the attitude towards capital in reverse: instead of saying "Rich guys, please pay me million so I can make my movie", she said "Poor people, please work for nothing so I can get my movie made for free".

sasazuka - 2014-12-15

I'm just assuming this is the WOLF in question:


They have a bunch of rough animation (and some finished shots) identified by Scene and Shot, which is really only possible if you're working from storyboards or a very descriptive script.

e.g. Scene 21, Shot 42


The animation, even in rough state, looks pretty good to me, re: approaching straight-to-video Disney sequel territory. Much better than I would have expected from unpaid, Internet-sourced animators.

EvilHomer - 2014-12-15

Oddeye - ugh, don't remind me! I try to set you up for a killer spike, and all I get for my trouble is that load of malarkey!!!

Seriously, tho, please don't get killed by the Tories.

EvilHomer - 2014-12-15

Wolf's also been in the making for roughly twelve years. Twelve years, and that handful of rough-cut animations is *all* they have to show for it.

EvilHomer - 2014-12-15

There was also a whole mess of shady dealings and disgruntled former "employees" documented on poe-Red, but much of that info has since been lost to the Great 404. The majority of what you see written on the official WOLF page was made right at the start, back in 2002/ 2003 or so, and has stayed virtually untouched since. The movie dragged on for years, and remains "in development", but their enthusiastic fanbase started losing interest around 2006, and even the true believers were gone by 2009. I'm not even sure if the *creator* is still involved; it might just be one or two of her most diehard disciples keeping the flame burning.

sasazuka - 2014-12-15

OIC, I didn't know the backstory.

Still, 10 years later, even in a far-from-finished-and-probably-will-never-be-finished state, they still seem to have a lot more to show for it than I suspect there will ever be of THE BRIGHT MYSTIC.

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