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Mr. Purple Cat Esq. - 2015-02-09

Unrelated to this video but it looks like the hopper is under attack by some spam bot. Whats the deal with that?

RocketBlender - 2015-02-09

If I had to guess, the person who made the youtbue account they're all coming from is probably spamming us and whoever else she can find in a desperate ploy to get enough views to make youtube partner or whatever it is these days.

StanleyPain - 2015-02-09

They're all from one account, Cayla Woods. *shrug*

Kid Fenris - 2015-02-09

In the book this scene lasted about three pages and was marginally interesting. Here it's 22 minutes of guys talking seriously about The Rods of Dominion and The Taint and The Gates of Paramecium.

There's a limit to how many gobbledygook fantasy terms a reader can swallow at once, and the limit for TV viewers is much lower.

SteamPoweredKleenex - 2015-02-09

Wait, they took a part of a book by Robert Jordan that was 3 pages long and made it LONGER?

Five stars for irony right there.

EvilHomer - 2015-02-10

Yeah, Robert Jordan takes fifty pages just to describe how his characters walk into an inn. There may be a limit to how much gobbledeygook TV viewers can swallow, but there is no such limit for WoT's True and Honest fans.

SteamPoweredKleenex - 2015-02-10

He loved describing his costumes, that's for sure.

I have to admit I never finished the series. I think I read the last book he actually wrote before his death, but by then I was just reading for more on how his magic system worked and for the post-apoc vibe the world had. What killed the series for me was:

1. The stupid "misunderstandings between the sexes." Just about every problem here could be cleared up with less than five words between characters, but nooooo. And it keeps happening over and over and over...

2. I don't think we've gotten more than a year or so of actual story. So we go from Rand being a farmer to being the head protagonist (avoiding spoilers, here) to the world's version of Armageddon in around a year, yet we've plowed through thousands of pages to do so?

3. Maybe he was told it'd kill sales, but his books could use a quick recap at the beginning of each novel. I read the early books pretty thoroughly and even I was lost by around book 5 in parts. Someone mentioned in one paragraph in book 3 suddenly becomes important four books later and I'm supposed to see that as significant? Screw this...

Kid Fenris - 2015-02-10

Atop those, some other things made me give up around the seventh book.

-The repetitive prose, in which one character gives another a look "that would have chipped stone" at least once a chapter. And the braid-tugging.

-The pileup of characters with tired plot arcs or no plot arcs at all, and the story's unwavering refusal to kill off or write out most of them. Perrin Quiverwolf or whoever he was should've exited by the second book.

-The abandonment of the story's neatest ideas. The fourth book actually got intriguing by introducing new cultures, alien races, and dimensional travel. Then it forgot about all of that and sunk back to routine.

I admit I read so much of the series because I was a kid at the time. A Game of Thrones wasn't around yet, and other notable fantasy series (Earthsea, New Sun, Lord of the Rings) were older and didn't have the same capacity for wish fulfillment. I wanted a magical epic about a teenager, and at Waldenbooks it was either The Wheel of Time or something worse.

There's still potential for a watchable adaptation, I think. A decent writer/producer team might streamline the story and up the stakes with a higher body count, but that would just annoy the fans.

Kid Fenris - 2015-02-10

And one more thing: Trollocs. That's what the series called its faux-orc minions of the dark lord. TROLLOCS. Even as a kid, it bugged me that the guy just couldn't call them trolls or come up with some floofy new fantasy term.

EvilHomer - 2015-02-10

I forget where I stopped reading, but I think it was around the sixth or seventh book. The early installments were really good (I actually read the third book in a single day) but it loses steam as the series goes on. It sucks, too, because I actually like books that are way too anal and over-involved - my one complaint about ASOIaF is that it doesn't go on for a few thousand more pages. Unfortunately, Jordan just gives the fuck up and the books suffer for it.

At the time, two of my best friends were big Jordan fans, and I was a Tad Williams mark. I grew up on stuff like Lloyd Alexander, CS Lewis, and Brian Jaques, but their books tended to be geared towards kids, rather than teenagers. Eventually I just said fuck it and forswore fantasy novels entirely, partially because I got so burned out by Robert Jordan, but it would be nice to see a watchable adaption, maybe done by the crew from The Borgia (John Doman version) now that it's over?

I did like the trollocs, though. The name was a bit stupid, but at least he was *trying*, unlike, say, RA Salvatore.

SteamPoweredKleenex - 2015-02-10

I'd say the first three books were the best because the story was originally supposed to be a trilogy. Then the sales shot up and padding ensued.

RocketBlender - 2015-02-09

Yeah, sorry for the downvote, I was just hitting everything and in that giant blob of hopper-shit and this was collateral damage. Here's some stars to make up for it.

Crunchy Frog - 2015-02-09

This was rushed out the door to prevent the rights to WoT from reverting to the author's estate.

http://www.dragonmount.com/index.php/News/events/wheel-of-time -tv-show-pilot-r849

Rodents of Unusual Size - 2015-02-09

So apparently the producers had to use something WOT related for showing on television or the rights would run out and they would have to pay more money or whatever, since they already optioned it a long time ago.

Full story here:

http://io9.com/the-real-story-about-that-wheel-of-time-pilot-t hat-aire-1684773094

Also confusingly this takes place like 2,000 years before anything in the WOT series so it would be like showing the fall of Valyria for Game of Thrones episode 1.

SteamPoweredKleenex - 2015-02-10

Jordan wrote a prequel short-story about the re-sealing of the Dark One's prison, where Dragonmount was raised, so that's probably where they got the idea.

Mind you, it was actually halfway interesting and filled in some of the lore, and I think it came out about 4 or 5 books into the series. So this "pilot" still sucked, but the concept of a prequel could've worked.

Rodents of Unusual Size - 2015-02-10

I read the first ten books years ago but never read the last four or that prequel with Morgaine. I have never even heard of the short story you mentioned!

Personally I only think WOT would work as a large budget animated series.

Ugh - 2015-02-10

*tugs on braid*

Binro the Heretic - 2015-02-10

Hmmm...lots of telling, not showing. Why should I give a fuck about all of this shit this asshole is prattling on about?

Okay, credits, here we go. Wow, a stair rail...a balcony...pillars...archway...floor tiles. Jesus, it's like "A Game of Thrones" if it was done by HGTV. What, a commercial already? Fuck.

Okay, finally, something. Agh, more voiceover. Production values look kind of cheap. Wow, that is the least effective breastplate, ever. Doesn't even cover the actual breast. Why do costume designers always dress women in breastplates with molded tits? The same armor that works on men will work on them. Wow, someone really likes slo-mo...

Oh, wait, this is an ad for one of those smartphone games.


Okay, THIS has got to be the show. FUCK! More architecture. Okay, here's some actual people. My, what a happy family. They're so obviously doomed. I suppose I'd be concerned if I'd been given any actual reason to care about any of them. Oh, it's a dream sequence...or IS it?

Commercials? AGAIN? Already?

Fuck this.

Gmork - 2015-02-10

wow. robert jordan is rolling in his relatively fresh grave

gmol - 2015-02-10

They could've tossed a few grand to some fans and gotten something half decent.

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