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namtar - 2015-04-21

This is worse than 9/11

EvilHomer - 2015-04-21

In that it's tragic, or in that it's fake? Because this is clearly not a trace.

Cena_mark - 2015-04-21

He confessed to tracing, but he claims he never sold a traced work. Either way tracing has led to his fame and fortune. We'll have to see how the fandom judges him.

EvilHomer - 2015-04-21

As I told the nice lady, whether he traces or not is immaterial. THIS picture is quite clearly referenced, not traced.

I don't know who this guy is. Who is he, Cena? I've herd of Drawponies, but I thought that was just a Tumblr game, like another word for Askponies - you ask an artist RPing as a pony a question, the artist draws a pony in response. I was not aware that Drawponies was the work of a single guy.

Cena_mark - 2015-04-21

I just herd of him too. I was checking EQD and saw the story of the scandal shocking the brony universe. He goes by the name of drawponies whereas he should have called himself traceponies.
He clearly traced this and you should be angry. He turned Rainbow Dash into Vinyl Scratch.

EvilHomer - 2015-04-21

Well, again, he didn't trace, at least not in this picture. It's hard to get mad at a tracer when all I've seen so far is an example of him not tracing.

Besides, Vinyl's pretty cool. Not as cool as Maud or Derpy, but, you know, for a secondary pony, she's pretty Rainbow Dash.

Cena_mark - 2015-04-21

There are far more examples of than this of tracery, plus you have the confession/apology. http://drawponies.deviantart.com/journal/Message-from-Drawponies-5 28204959

EvilHomer - 2015-04-21

Yes, but this isn't traced.

Shoebox Joe - 2015-04-21

I agree with Evilhomer. The picture on the video is clearly using a reference. I don't care enough to look at the apology, etc., etc. But the person who made this video clearly doesn't understand the differences between tracing, copying and referencing.

EvilHomer - 2015-04-21

I guess, in a sense, it IS like 9/11. That is to say, with 9/11, there were terrorists, and there were Muslims. Some Muslims really were terrorists, many (most?) Muslims were not. Yet, in their grief and anger, some otherwise good-hearted people began to lose sight of that distinction.

So too, here. We've got traces, we've got references, and society must ever forget the difference between the two.

Cena_mark - 2015-04-21

He obviously traced the picture getting destroyed here. This is how all of you should be reacting.

EvilHomer - 2015-04-21

Oooh, he's the guy who drew the Fos Ro Yay picture? That's a nice drawing; I've seen it before and I like it.

EvilHomer - 2015-04-21

What's the problem with that drawing? Everyone knows where it's from, yes? It's a famous pose from the most famous scene in one of the best Flutterdash episodes (and thus Best Episode ever); don't tell me this is just now becoming news to these bronies?

Cena_mark - 2015-04-21

I was reading comments and it seems a lot of people were smart to the tracing. I think its been blown out of proportion by haters. You don't make it to the top of a fandom without gathering haters.

EvilHomer - 2015-04-21

Oh God, the comments on THIS one:


The mob is turning on itself. No one is safe!

EvilHomer - 2015-04-21

Oh God again. Turns out the guy whose video I just linked has attracted the attention of 4chan, and a few hours ago released two videos threatening their Pony board with DMCAs.

BHWW - 2015-04-22

You two going on and on and on about these MLP videos, it's like watching a Vaudeville comedy duo go through a routine only very depressing and soul-withering to witness.

infinite zest - 2015-04-22

Eh.. this happens in literature all the time. 50 Shades of Grey is just a Twilight Palette Swap, and while it's known what's her name is still making a fortune. I learned to draw Applejack upset in a bathroom stall by tracing, and sold it to a bar

Cena_mark - 2015-04-22

I gotta see that drawing.

Redford - 2015-04-21

This is about as good as that guy who runs photoshop filters over clouds and then claims that allows him to see the magical space lizards hiding inside of them.

Kabbage - 2015-04-21



Kabbage - 2015-04-21

Also: https://twitter.com/fimfictiontxt/status/586257469279703040

Caminante Nocturno - 2015-04-21

I'm going to have to agree with Octavia, here.

The New Meat - 2015-04-21

Wait, isn't every pony basically just a palette swap? How can anything they draw NOT be tracing?

magnesium - 2015-04-21

Yeah, I'm a little lost at how original you can be with such a simplified character model.

On the other hand, how much does it matter? Isn't it still copyright infringement to sell fan art of someone else's intellectual property regardless of whether or not it's traced?

EvilHomer - 2015-04-21

Sort of. The show is done in Flash, and there are a number of basic pony parts that the animators use to build each individual pony, e.g. unicorns have one base, pegasi have another, Rarity and the Spa Twins share the same eye design, Apple Fritter and Jonagold are essentially the same pony only with different hair colors (Apple Fritter is better) etc.

I think the point is that this was a community artist, and he was supposed to be doing "original" work, although I totally agree that the complaint is more than a little ironic, given the nature of the material.

Xenocide - 2015-04-21

There are a lot of different ways to draw Fluttershy's throbbing penis.

EvilHomer - 2015-04-22

That would be Futashy, and judging by the amount of stuff on Tumblr, yes there are.

EvilHomer - 2015-04-22

Unless you're thinking of Flutterguy, but Flutterguy was the result of magical curse caused by Poison Joke, and it only affected her voice, not her physiology.

It's an understandable mistake.

dairyqueenlatifah - 2015-04-21

This is the worst thing to happen since Zayn Malik left One Direction!

Albuquerque Halsey - 2015-04-21

Watching people talk about MLP is like stepping on dogshit while wearing socks.

Binro the Heretic - 2015-04-22

I dunnoh.

I'd say it's more like putting your foot in your slipper and finding cold cat puke with your toes.

EvilHomer - 2015-04-22

You guys have weird fetishes.

CIWB - 2015-04-21

Fuck you.

Yes, I'm channeling Waugh.

yogarfield - 2015-04-22

I miss Waugh. Hope he's ok.

Xenocide - 2015-04-21

Brony jail ain't no joke, son. You better pray.

Caminante Nocturno - 2015-04-21

If I ever go down, I hope I don't get a pony judge.

The Mothership - 2015-04-21

Plagiarism is definitely evil, but I'm getting tired of this stupid pony drama.

Nobody cares.

M-DEEM - 2015-04-21

I do not care for bronies.

Cena_mark - 2015-04-22

So you give my video 1 star because you're a a racist? I do not care for M-DORKS.

Gmork - 2015-04-22

None of it takes any skill anyways.

misterbuns - 2015-04-22

a guy in a community that exists to copy a thing copied a thing

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2015-04-22

5 stars for calling it the "the drawpony scandal" and not "Tracergate" or some similar "Gate" bullshit.

Didn't watch the video, though.

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