I dunno, Zak Snyder's a bit of a nerd. In the opening credits he makes an unnecessary (but very necessary) homage to why Batman was only a figment of everybody's imagination, and this seems to treat Superman like that universe's Dr. Manhattan. I mean, haters gotta hate but the heart was there. In THIS universe Superman's Dr. Manhattan etc. etc. and it's maybe getting a little old, but it was kinda cool to see Superman doing what a Superman would do instead of fly through rings and try to stop people from whatever the fuck was Superman 4 about again

Sorry, talking 'bout talkin' about the watchmen and thinking about superman and thinkin' about the government sitting on the government.

whoa whoa whoa

His parents were murdered by a criminal? I thought they were killed by a law-abiding citizen! this changes everything!

Maybe batman is hungry is all.

Hungry... FOR JUSTICE

THANK YOU FOR YOUR INQUIRY CONCERNING THE BLEEDING ISSUE.

IN RESPONSE TO YOUR QUERY, YES, I DO BLEED.

WAIT YOU MEANT THAT AS A GENERAL THREAT, DIDN'T YOU.



WHY I OUGHTA....

I'M BATMAN

I'm Spartacus!

I'M ARGO

I reckon a good chunk of the plot of this is taken from 'the dark knight returns' by Frank Miller, wherein batman does beat up superman in a giant mecha-batsuit (its quite a good comic btw)
Also, batman and iron man are very similar, both their main superpowers are money.

More power to them if they pull it off...but I can't see how they can do this. Avengers started with many characters already "in play".

I'll admit I was pretty damn surprised to see Wonder Woman show up. Like... that's a whole other wing of backstory they're going to have to put together, utterly unrelated to Batman and Superman.

Actually kind of giddy at what a wonderful mess this is going to be.

Also, Wonder Woman's powers are magical plus she's a demi-god. So...yeah..this will be interesting.

Yeah and like I said above, Zack Snyder's the right guy for the job. He and his team actually fixed the one problem I had with Watchmen the graphic novel. Since Alan Moore said he'd never watch them I thought the rewrite was kind of a cool middle finger to his squid monster thingy. I wonder if Moore even knows?

Anyway, 300 was shit, but so was the comic. Really not much to work with there. Man of Steel I still haven't seen all the way through.. it's pretty and I like what I saw but it was limited by trying to be another Iron Man or whatever other Marvel movie was out that summer and I still haven't finished it. Plus he likes Owls, so much to make some movie about CGI owls. And that movie kicks ass! So I think he knows what he's doing. He directs what he likes.

The justice league cartoons handled this really well imo. I had no idea who half the heroes were and it wasnt explained. They just got on with the story, and what peoples powers were was obvious.

[also xmen films did this too]

Yeah, David Goyer's pretty good at this stuff. But David Hayter did it better because there was still a sense of fun in the X-Men movies that I feel Batman lacked. Batman Begins was kind of "woah look at this hardcore Batman" sort of fun, and the second one had one of the best performances by anyone ever in a motion picture, but you're kind of done with it by the third, or I was anyway. Hard to say how much of that's the screenwriter's fault but the gritty aspect fed right into the superman reboot. But like I said Snyder is much better suited for this than Nolan or the X Men Guy; even if his movies suck you can tell that he's making the kind of movie that he wants to see again and again and knows the source material so basically please don't suck! This has so much potential for awesome. Don't make me commit to getting another tattoo like I did with CHAPPiE!

But didn't you know your childhood cartoons make a perfect platform for REAL LIFE PHILOSOPHY?

If I didn't want Gritty I'd just watch Teen Titans Go. The DC Universe is either too campy or too gritty.. there's really not much middle ground like V-wall superheroes like Deadpool to play around with in the universe. And they sort of did that themselves with Watchmen. So it's either the Batoosie on the big screen or this.

I dunno I'd watch the former.. but I'll watch this too.

dude just imagine if you kept watching the movie over and over

you'd make like .85 an hour

That's pretty close to my going rate. Hollywood is so boring now, which stinks. Look at top box office movies by decade. Start from the 70's and get bummed out.

http://www.filmsite.org/boxoffice2.html

Well, we'll still beat out 1915. I can't believe there hasn't been a reboot of Birth of a Nation yet.

I wouldn't be surprised if a remake of that started filming very recently.

Oh yeah!

Who knew you could make a god by throwing some DNA at the sun (or whatever the fuck they did in that movie)?

The Egyptians.