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StanleyPain - 2016-01-01

For those curious, the text they read is part of a massive article on Wookieepedia about Vader's Armor.

Hooker - 2016-01-01


EvilHomer - 2016-01-01

What they fail to mention is that all of these "facts" were pulled from the Legends tab on Wookiepedia. That means they aren't canon, and haven't been canon since Disney decided to nuke the EU and put Leland Chee of the Holocron Continuity Database out of a job.

Caminante Nocturno - 2016-01-01

Disney nuked the European Union?!?

EvilHomer - 2016-01-01

Not yet, no. EU in the context of Star Wars stands for "Extended Universe", i.e. all of the various StarWars-branded novels, comic books, video games, TV specials etc. Due to the sheer amount of tie-in media created over the past forty years, the Star Wars EU is incredibly complex, to the point where Lucasfilms had to hire an executive whose sole job was making sense of Star Wars canon.

Or at least it WAS complex, up until 2014, when Disney (the new "owners" of Star Wars) said fuck it, only the official movies are canon; from now, everything else is not. (this was probably done because Disney knew they wanted to film sequels, but the period after Star Wars Ep VI had already been explored by dozens of authors) The article Plinkett and Rich are reading was compiled from EU sources, which means that as of two years ago, none of it is true.

That's the Cliffsnotes version. If you're so inclined, you can read a 5,000 word essay on the history of Star Wars canon here:


EvilHomer - 2016-01-01

Note - that is not to say there isn't going to be an EU anymore; there most certainly is. However, Disney has completely reset the EU, and the material which they themselves create over the next century or so (material which the Disney corporation has both editorial control over and iron-tight copyrights for) is going to constitute the "new canon".

Caminante Nocturno - 2016-01-01

I hope that Disney resetting the EU doesn't have a negative impact on NATO.

EvilHomer - 2016-01-01

I doubt it. NATO does get help from the Star Wars EU (indirectly, in the form of troop surges linked to popular entertainment), but what matters is the mere existence of said media, not its canonicity. So long as Disney keeps making new Star Wars material, I don't think there will be any negative impact.

Cube - 2016-01-01

To us living in the EU, it's just U.

oddeye - 2016-01-01

The EU is full of completely goofy bullshit anyway.

Oscar Wildcat - 2016-01-01

This whole business about religion, canon and copyright control sounds an awful lot like Scientology.

Last nite on the tube I watched the Kennedy Center honor George Lucas for his directorial achievements. I felt kind of bad for the guy: on the one hand, he's created the most profitable movie franchise of all times. On the other hand, he's only ever really done one thing since the 70's. It looked a bit thin up there...

StanleyPain - 2016-01-01

Youre right, EH. God forbid RLM didn't mention these was fan-made nonsense as opposed to the official tried-and-true nonsense made by professionals for the SW universe.

Meerkat - 2016-01-01

The only important "Fact" about Darth Vader's suit is that it was mostly ripped off of Winslow's getup in Phantom of the Paradise, *including* the voice box. Really, slap a Darth Vader helmet on the Phantom of the Paradise and you're good to go.

EvilHomer - 2016-01-01

No, no, StanleyPain, you misunderstand. "Legends" material (formerly SW canon grades T-through-D) is not fanmade nonsense, it IS nonsense made by professionals for the SW universe. The trouble is, it was made by professionals *who were working under license for Lucasfilms, not Disney*, and because of the Disney buyout, their nonsense has been purged (in much the same way Lucas himself was).

If you want to know more about fanmade nonsense (which is beyond the purview of Wookiepedia), you have to go to someplace like this:


infinite zest - 2016-01-01

@Oscar yeah, there was another video where he compared it to a break-up (maybe it was on here?) but he had this "this gives me time to do other things" attitude and I can imagine him just clicking on Star Wars' Facebook all day long, after they defriended him and blocked him, not that I've like ever been there myself.. :/

"I should make another American Graffiti. Same cast, just sort of a 7-up thing! It worked for.. never mind. I know, that Truck movie oh wait that was Spielberg I think.. ok I got it! Parks and Recreation in Star Wars! Naw.."

Sanest Man Alive - 2016-01-02

Homer's really phoning it in if he can't throw that whole 5,000-word fart at us himself.

That guy - 2016-01-01

happy new year

Scrotum H. Vainglorious - 2016-01-01

I'm the same way when it comes to anime submissions that make it through the hopper.

Raggamuffin - 2016-01-02

Though I may disagree with you, I have to admit I respect your conviction.

kingarthur - 2016-01-01

I love these guys and I love that the Star Wars movies are so bereft of thought and made to appeal to kids that they fall apart completely with any kind of analysis and immediately look silly with any attempt to make them realistic. They make for a comedy goldmine.

Xenocide - 2016-01-01

True, but if you're setting out to make Star Wars seem realistic, then you're missing the point harder than someone who refuses to enjoy wrestling because it's fake.

infinite zest - 2016-01-01

Star Wars kind of did it to themselves though, allowing the floodgates to be opened with way too much LucasFilms-approved Fan Fiction that got made into bestselling airport novels and such. In fact, before I saw any Star Wars movie I read Shadows of the Empire and at least 2 others. They were pretty dark and went into a ton of detail, so when I finally saw ANH and the rest of the re-released trilogy a few years later I was like "that's all? Where's Xisor and Rendar" etc. etc.

Basically they let Star Wars grow up with their audience in a way that few other franchises have, while continuing to make movies that are pretty much targeted at the next generation of Star Wars fans or people who just want a fun movie you can basically talk or text all the way through and figure out what's going on. It's a fun movie but honestly I could have watched it with headphones on and known what was going on, vs. the prequels which.. wait what was going on exactly? So of course fans are going to speculate, but I don't blame them for expecting more out of TFA other than "hey that was just a really good movie."

infinite zest - 2016-01-01

(or what Evilhomer said above, something about destroying the European Union and such..)

infinite zest - 2016-01-01

Oops I could've read the "white slavery" thing before I posted this.. Just go to sleep Grandpa Lucas, you've been a good boy today.

Binro the Heretic - 2016-01-01

"The Chancellor Palpatine Surgical Reconstruction Center"

Someone came up with that and other people approved of it.

I'm glad I never got into the "Extended Universe" and I'm happy they're ignoring the fuck out of it in the new movies.

Old_Zircon - 2016-01-01

Got my stars, too.

Oscar Wildcat - 2016-01-01

In true Imperial style, Palpatine spent huge sums of money on the hospital infrastructure and the ensuing debt forced a long series of layoffs and cost cutting moves that arguably contributed to the ultimate collapse of the Empire.

Binro the Heretic - 2016-01-01

When I saw someone had written an extensive biography of the hammerhead-shark-looking thing that appears for less than one second in the cantina scene, I knew that was a rabbit hole I did not want to go down.

infinite zest - 2016-01-01

I've always wanted the old movie theatre in Milwaukee to publish the box office logs we kept around.. technically the manager said we couldn't because, well, Plinkett's not exactly completely fictional, but there was some of the best Fan Fiction in there, from movies' least favorite fans, movie theatre employees.

Jimmy Labatt - 2016-01-06

Yeah I completely lost my shit at that one too.

RockBolt - 2016-01-01



BHWW - 2016-01-01

Make his helmet so shiny the Emperor won't notice all of the shortcuts we've taken that he more or less forced on us with budget cuts. No, shinier!

The Mothership - 2016-01-01

This guy can't catch a break!

oddeye - 2016-01-01

Darth Vader CHOPPED UP KIDS BY HAND stop fucking dressing up as a CONVICTED CHILD-KILLER!!!

EvilHomer - 2016-01-01

Hang on - "convicted"? When was he put on trial? Vader may have chopped up kids, but he did so with the full authority of Law behind him (Executive Order 66). There was never a trial, and he was never "convicted" of anything.

Caminante Nocturno - 2016-01-02

He was found guilty by a jury of his one peer that sliced most of his limbs off and then left him burning on the ground.

Hooker - 2016-01-02

Final frontier justice.

EvilHomer - 2016-01-02

No, an anti-government extremist attempted to commit murder against Vader. Fortunately, nationalized healthcare saved the war hero's life.

The children were convicted criminals. Obi-Wan was a convicted criminal attempting to flee justice. Darth Vader was a peace officer, and was neither tried nor convicted of any crime.

MurgatroidMendelbaum - 2016-01-02

In completely random news, unrelated to this discussion in any way;

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/31/politics/jeb-bush-police-shootin gs/

Rodents of Unusual Size - 2016-01-02

I am so going to be distracted by that helmet shine.

Quad9Damage - 2016-01-03

I wasn't aware of how far the Expanded Universe went until I found massive articles on Wookieepedia about Chewbacca's family members from the Holiday Special.

jimmyboblahey - 2016-01-03

Fact 11: He's not white so take that you insecure white people.

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