Mr. Purple Cat Esq. - 2016-04-09
I'm curious how are you defining 'samping' ?
It sounds like he could have just recorded a choir and put some effects on them (Im not saying he did)
If your criteria for 'sample' was super loose you could say that a Robert Johnson recording is a song containing nothing but one long sample of robert johnson singing and playing guitar
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Old_Zircon - 2016-04-09 He went out with a wire recorder, captured sounds in the field, edited them and processed them heavily using mostly acoustic reverb chambers. Beat Pierre Schaeffer (who coined the term "musique concrete") by a few years. Eventually went to the USA as part of a scholarship program in the 50s and was art of the Columbia Princeton Electronic Music Center.
So not digital sampling of course, but I'd say this could be justifiably calledsampling in the compositional sense. A lot of people call this the first piece of electronic music PERIOD but I'd say that the prewar recordings with theremins and stuff would qualify, plus the (sadly never recorded) Telharmonium.
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Old_Zircon - 2016-04-09 By contrast, though, turntablism goes back to the 1930s.
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StanleyPain  - 2016-04-09
Prettycool, although I think this is cut-down or something as I remember reading somewhere that the whole piece is about half an hour. I wrote a paper on electronic/experimental music a long time ago and as I understand it, yes, this is generally considered to be the first instance of sampling (as in recording a sound, re-processing it/modifying it in some fashion, and then playing it back as part of another piece)or at least musique concrete in the traditional sense.
As for being the first electronic piece, that would not be the case. There were pieces of music using low-tech oscillators and such being recorded in the 30s (Johanna Beyer for example) that were actually published music (not just people at universities making fart noises with computerized vacuum tubes and showing it to the public)
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StanleyPain - 2016-04-09 Interestingly, digital sampling actually goes back pretty far too as engineers figured out how to record a sound with a mic hooked up to a very primitive circuit/diode/capacitor set-up pretty early on, but the quality was beyond useless and the sound length was tiny until the size of what could be stored was increased by technology.
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Old_Zircon - 2016-04-10 Yeah, I think the full piece is just over 22 minutes but it wasn't on Youtube.
It's interesting, I got a degree in this stuff and they never even mentioned this guy.
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Old_Zircon - 2016-04-10 (not that I'm particularly surprised, if there's one near constant among academic music types I've encountered in my life it's a myopic view of music).
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