So is he gonna reproduce? Will there be baby ChrisChans? The mind, it reels. The vertiginous horror...

Not sure if she will reproduce, but it DOES sound like more embarrassing sex tapes will be surfacing in the near future.

On a related note, the audio on this would make an awesome mp3 for a campus coffee shop and/or hipster DJ gig playlist.

The really important info:

"Well then I issue a challenge... you (Johan) say, from your video, you're like an acrobat, but I can do so much better sexually, so we each upload a video, and the person that gets more votes from the community on the internet wins. (...) And fortunately I had already made a video for the lesbian couple, which demonstrated quite well my, acrobatic, sexual prowess, thats goes yet to be unappreciated especially since I was self-taught (...) So if your votes on, rather or not who has the better sexual style and activity, ability. There will be a voting page coming up soon! And my video on this channel and his video on his channel. There will be links in the voting page."



Translation: "Johan" challenged Chris to a public, online, sex-tape battle. UNFORTUNATELY FOR JOHAN, Chris has already made such a tape, and is about to upload it, presumably to Youtube.

The male sounds just like Christine's Clyde Cash impersonation.

Oh my god I missed this part:

"Well then I issue a challenge... you say yo- you say, from your video, you're like an acrobat, but I can do so much better sexually so, we each upload a video... And the person- and, the person that gets more votes from the community on the internet wins"

It's like, at first the fascination with CWC was seeing how far he could fall, but now that he's burned his old life to the ground, he's turned into some magnificent elder statesman of the Internet who, rather than rest comfortably on his laurels, playing his old hits from 10 years ago, is constantly innovating, experimenting, and coming up with new ways to be the best Chris-Chan he can be.

Last month he did that whole "job opening" spiel and listed "can get to be sexually harassed by an autistic transsexual at corporate lesbian slumber parties" as a benefit. Last week it was that goddamned white board. Today he challenged a dying gay pornstar to a Cirque du Solei wank-off. He's just so goddamned beautiful.

Oscar: I like to imagine the doctor comes into the waiting room, saying "Here you go Mr/s(s?) Chandler! A beautiful baby boy!" and Chris just Stress Sighs before casually spiking his child into a trash can.

The guy is like the David Bowie of crap artists. Pure gutter genius.

David Bowie is the David Bowie of crap artists, and ChrisChan isn't crap. ChrisChan makes legitimate art.

Point of nomenclature: a "crap artist" is a person who collects crackpot ideas and worthless objects, and is entirely unequipped to deal with the real world. Hardly a wealthy and successful artist like Mr. Bowie.

Never forget, EvilHolden., that it is a great art to do what you do well. If you limp, limp well, and if you dance, dance well. Or if you are a crap artist, you must measure up to ChrisChan. Can you pass? Or will you be thrown out of the crap artist bathroom...

Well, in that case, define "crackpot". Define "worthless".

Chris has an eccentric way of doing things, but the underlying ideas which drive him to embrace his eccentric solutions are, themselves, pretty reasonable. For example, Chris wants to be a transgendered lesbian who has non-transgendered lesbians over to his mom's house to fuck. It's a pretty weird plan when you stop to think about it, but the underlying motive - love, and a desire to connect to people - is perfectly reasonable. In fact, I'd say that his foundational concepts are not only reasonable, but also far more *human* than certain other, let's say "more sophisticated", artists tend to get. Chris' schemes can oftentimes be madder than the maddest Dadaist fever dream, sure, but he is always firmly grounded in reality. It always comes back to love.

As for being worthless, I think everything Chris makes and everything he collects has "worth", simply as a matter of definition. If the objects he makes are worthless, then why would he have tens of thousands of fans following and documenting his every move? And if the objects he collects are worthless, then why do they cost him so much tugboat money to buy? Why does he need donations, if the objects he surrounds himself with are "worthless"?

Read Phil Dicks' "Confessions of a crap artist" for a pretty good character study of a 50's version of the animal in question.

I suppose you are going into your postmodern mode, which is fine w/ respect to ChrisChan and his relative worth. What is worth something there is exactly how much others value it. For myself, I would not part with a penny for any of ChrisChan's work, so by that definition it is worthless. Or do you believe this work has intrinsic value? Please explain, I'd love to hear you argue that position. Frankly, I believe psychic objects like artwork can have intrinsic value, but I've not wrestled that beast into submission just yet.

I believe both! Chris' work very clearly has value within the market, and it's also got a great deal of intrinsic value, too (assuming, of course, that intrinsic value is something art can have).

Again, Chris is a woman of deep passions and great vision. One of the hardest tasks an artist can set for herself is to help the audience to see the world through new eyes. This task is independent of technique, and very few craftsmen - even incredibly skilled ones - can accomplish it. For example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maW0KmHs_sM

Ms Rooney is INCREDIBLY skilled at what she does - but what "she does" is produce photo-realistic drawings of fleetingly-relevant pop culture celebrities. Her work is beautiful and her gift is rare, but her work does not actually reveal anything about the artist herself. It doesn't tell us anything about the human condition, or speak to us about our own lives (beyond merely saying, "Hey? Do you like celebrities? I do, too!")

Compare and contrast to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PISuNFwtxxs

That's some heavy stuff. There's real tragedy in that comic, real passion. Sure, it looks like it was drawn by an eight year-old child and it's riddled with hilarious spelling errors, but my god, this is a man revealing his soul to the world! This is what reality looks like to a lonely autistic virgin; the cruelty society inflicts upon him, the fantasies he uses to cope with his grief, the alien thought-patterns which comes so naturally to him but not-at-all to us, a seething cauldron of hope and joy, rage, pain and sex - I mean, FUCK, how could this even be up for discussion? How could someone NOT recognize the deeper artistic value of Sonichu?!

When we look at Ms Rooney's work, we see a very good picture of an actor. When we look at Chris', we see a life laid bare.

This is also what sets Chris aside from other "weirdos" internet artists. When you look at other weirdo artists - guys like Gonterman, BenTLooney, Braniac Adam, or Kevin Kinne - their work is usually just an endless march of plagiarism, violent sexual fantasies, and self-indulgent ego-stroking (i.e. they're Salvador Dali). Don't get me wrong, Chris does this too! But with Chris, you also get so much depth, feeling, and insight.

Both artists are incomplete. Rooney has drafting skill to burn, but suffers from a complete lack of insight or novel idea. Such work has great relative value, like much craft does, and I'm sure she sells these pieces quite easily for much money. But as fine art, well, they stink on ice.

Chischan has backstory and novelty to burn, but suffers from a complete lack of drafting skill and technique. I am inclined to forgive this as you are, but it really diminishes the work as fine art.

I suppose both could work on their weak points, but let's be honest neither will probably be able to overcome their weakness. Ronney will be caught making too much money, and when she attempts to excel in novelty, her patrons will flee in terror. Chrischan is too lazy and self absorbed to ever focus on developing the craft of drawing, so he will continue on as more of a performance piece.

A great example of someone with Chrischan's talents but with a solid craft foundation, R. Crumb springs to mind. Brilliant ideas and terrible insights, combined with excellent craft. Chris could be this if he had the chops, but I'm not holding my breath.

Much like Martin Buber's famous passage about a tree from Ich-du, all the components have to come together to create this thing of intrinsic worth. It's worth noting that natural objects, like the iris or redwood tree, achieve this result.

>> suffers from a complete lack of drafting skill and technique (...) it really diminishes the work as fine art.

How do you explain this, then?

http://artgallery.yale.edu/collections/objects/44040

As for Crumb, Chris is better! Crumb is sneering hipster who apes at being a social outcast; he's notable for being an early example of the form, but ChrisChan long ago surpassed that particular normie's meager output.

Oh, I wouldn't dismiss Crumb for your reasons. Do check out the wonderful biopic "Crumb" and see for yourself. Both his brothers are also fine artists in their own rights, although his older brother's cartooning was really quite remarkable and you may find him more to your liking. A "FAMOUS" chris would probably end up being just as unappealing to you as Crumb is.

I like Miro and think he's done some fine art, but let's be honest not _all_ of his work is so terrific. It's hard with famous painters because once declared famous, any bedsheet stain will sell for millions of dollars. Basquiat is another good example, some great canvasses, a lot of so so ones. You really need to consider the whole body of work to judge individual canvasses.

A fine art painter friend of my partner ( who is also this ) just died, and his memorial was packed with academics, collectors and malcontents. It was quite a carnival. But this fellow, he was honest as the day is long, and held the academic stuff in great contempt. One curator related to us how, on telling our friend she had just read a paper about him to an art conference, his response was words to the effect that it was a complete load of bullshit. The audience was shocked, and I started clapping. Others followed. But not to many. I knew he would have appreciated that moment.

I've seen "Crumb", and in all honesty, when I was twelve, I accepted the film's message at face value. Over the years, though - thanks to my own life, as well as the lives of other crazy people I met - I have come to question the authenticity, or at least the depths, of Crumb's madness. Crumb is a disturbed individual, yes, but he's garden-variety compared to (for example) your average net-dwelling NEET. Crumb is precisely the sort of high-functioning eccentric that yuppies can bring to their dinner parties, and therein lies the secret of his success.

As for Miro, my point is that his lack of technique doesn't actually diminish the "fine art" quality of his work. Not all of his work is good, of course (in fact, I'd argue that almost none of it is), but nevertheless Miro proves that one can do "fine art" despite possessing the drawing skills of a small child.

BTW, I wasn't going to mention this, but I'm starting to crash again, so - CA's ex might have a terminal illness. Won't know for another month or two. Haven't spoken to CA since last Wednesday (plus one unanswered message) and now I'm stuck between giving her space to grieve and get her head in order, and worrying that she's going to withdraw and isolate from everybody (including me). It's doubly shit because I was sorta hoping ex would put distance between them, but now it's monkey-pawed and I'm feeling incredibly guilty.

God-speed to ChrisChan, man. He's like an older, saltier (sister?) to me. We may be different in many, many ways - opposites, really, for better AND worse - but nevertheless I feel his pain. I swear, if I thought for a minute it would help things, I too would become a lesbian transwoman.

Crumb has a foot in both worlds, and came of age at a time when he could get famous with this style. But you seem to want your crazy artists to be fully crazy: I can respect that.

If you have not already discovered this, you must check out the Prinzhorn Collection. I don't know of any good online resource, if you find one post it here. But I've seen a big chunk of the collection shown in NYC and I can assure you, it's some of the best art I have ever seen in my life. Hits all the marks I scribed, and then some. Early precursor to the modern art therapy movement. All artists in the collection were committed mental patients.

Well, you've punched your ticket, that's part of the ride my friend. Hey, if you need a lift, do check out that collection. It's jaw droppingly good stuff.

Yeah, the worst part is, if it's terminal, ex'll deteriorate over the next nine months. In all likelihood, this is going to be going on well into next year, and getting worse, not better, by the day. On top of that, HumanFluttershy all but declared me her new boyfriend a couple days ago. I told her we were just friends, but I'm not sure she's dissuaded at all, and she IS incredibly cute.

I swear by Magi-chan's two balls, if I could only operate on Chris' level, I'd be fucking set right now. What he needs I've got, but what he has, I lack.

It's funny you mention the NYC thing, though, because I'm planing on taking CA down to the city in the next couple weeks, and I really want to pull out all the stops (short of being romantic, I mean) in hopes of cheering her up a bit. Art therapy and mental patients sounds like the kind of thing that would make me get into loud arguments with the curator, but it'd be right up HER alley, so fuck it. Paris is worth a collection.

... also, do they take unsolicited donations? Because if so, I'd be happy to bring some printouts of "Drinking Straw of Fail" or "She Came For CWC".

Sadly, this was a touring show: the permanent installation is in Vienna I think? Otherwise, the NYC gallery scene is a total piece of shite. Avoid it like the plague. Not sure what's good anymore there, it became Mallhattan around the time I left. Best bet is to troll the ethnic nabes of Brooklyn, there are still some spots of amazing magic to be found there. Santeria stores, for example. But much has passed, and been replaced by the same nonsense you find everywhere else in America.

Know of any good, cheap places in Chinatown? To eat, buy, or possibly sleep?

Manhattan Chinatown is a nice place to troll just for kicks ( although I much preferred the Brooklyn chinatown back in the 90s' ) but really I don't much like Chinese food so good or bad it's lost on me ( I've had people in the know take me to great ones, and left feeling let down ). You could go uptown a bit to Union Square and try the Zen Palate. Reasonably priced, consistently good product, and it's probably still a going concern. Despite the name, they have a variety of cuisines, although it's all vegan if that's a problem for you. Frankly, once I got serious about cooking, I gave up eating out. You'll pay an arm and a leg for a decent meal anywhere in NYC at this point.

The last ten years of Crumb's work has justified everything offputting he's ever done. Plus, Crumb isn't driven by envy or rage. CWC's motivations are envy, pride, gluttony, sloth and mutant, delusional dedication. CWC is a mass of animated vice. If he was a White Wolf character, he'd be a Spirit-Driven.

Sexy Duck Cop, it always cracks me up whenever I see your name anywhere near a CWC submission.

Thanks _Mark. Chris-Chan truly brings out the holiday cheer in all of us.