Born in the RSR - 2017-06-09
This could just be summed up by a sad trombone.
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jfcaron_ca - 2017-06-09 Yeah, the worst part is that if the British hadn't left, HK would likely be its own sovereign nation by now, peacefully. The PRC isn't so willing to let territories go.
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jfcaron_ca - 2017-06-09 I'm echoing what I hear from native Hong Kong people, including ethnically Chinese ones. Other than mainland transplants and the hyper-rich, most people from the SAR aren't enthusiastic about China being in charge.
Sure categorically "the end of colonialism" is a good thing, but in this specific instance the outcome for the humans who live there is not generally accepted as positive.
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jfcaron_ca - 2017-06-09 Also don't assume I'm 100% on one side...there is room for nuance here even within one person's perspective.
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Adham Nu'man - 2017-06-09 I'm by no means a political expert. But having been to Hong Kong and knowing people there: they fucking hate belonging to China.
Also, China agreed not to meddle with Hong Kong politically and grant them independence for a certain period of time (can't remember right now until what year), but of course that was bullshit and they've already meddled with their political realm and arrested dissenters.
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Born in the RSR - 2017-06-09 I was more referring to the irony of HK leaving the yoke of a colonial power only to be fitted with one of a communist dictatorship.
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Nominal - 2017-06-09 Hazelnut, speaking up for natives, against natives.
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Hazelnut - 2017-06-10 This thread reminds me of my South African brother-in-law who's always going on about how Blacks liked it better under Apartheid and insists on calling Zimbabue 'Rhodesia'.
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cognitivedissonance - 2017-06-10 i don't think the average Moroccan misses the French, merely the ones who went through the procedure of Francophone culture indoctrination that the French did that the British and Dutch didn't on the same scale. It's also why Quebec just isn't like the rest of Canada, and why Louisiana is culturally apart from the rest of the American South. The relationship of France to its ex-colonies is like the Little Prince to his tamed fox.
And don't think I'm defending colonialism, dismantling the apparatus is itself a nuanced moral issue and this is heavy, heavy shit that people have to take into account. Generational sin is a real thing.
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Old_Zircon - 2017-06-09
Anyone who hasn't sen it should check out Maniacal Night, the HK knockoff of After Hours released in the leadup to this.
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TeenerTot - 2017-06-09
I read it as "king kong."
I'm disappointed.
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poorwill - 2017-06-10 your parents are disappointed
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