I think part 2 will have Alia of the Knife.

The David Lynch still has the best looking stillsuits.

"Urine and feces … are processed in the thigh pads."

I will always use that quote whenever I see anything Dune related.

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I'll watch the shit out of this. Actually much closer visually than the Lynch movie to how I imagined Dune when I first read the books.

Yeah the quotes are pretty cringe, but I remember once being really worried by the Lord of the Rings trailer because it selected the most cringe-inducing lines ("Even the smallest creature can change the course of history" -- eughhh).

The look of the stillsuits was the one thing that bugged me about the Lynch version.

The Fremen were a hidden guerilla force that popped in and out of the desert. The suits were obviously meant to blend in with the environment. They stood out like sore thumbs and could have been seen for miles with Lynch's black suits.

Out of all the cheap, shitty costumes of the mini-series, the stillsuits were the one thing it did better.

What was playfully subversive about Dune? It was a standard 3 act hero's journey. The only slight twist was the inevitable doom & gloom jihad Paul knew he had set into motion. That was anything but playful.

Anything playful about Dune was put there by David Lynch.

C'mon, the whole "destined leader" mythos was intentionally seeded by bene gesserats on hundreds of worlds (with culturally-appropriate modifications) to make use of when and as needed, but at the same time they actually DID create a quasi-messiah, but sort of by accident, who then turns out to be Space Hitler (Paul's own comparison).

That's pretty "out there" compared to a typical YER A WIZARD HARRY-type blockbuster.

Also, "three act hero's journey" is

... not how I would describe Dune at all, not least because books don't really have Acts, and Joseph Campbell's heroic journey thing (which is mostly a crap oversimplification in the first place) had about twelve stages, not three. It's been a while since I read my big illustratrated coffee table version of the hero with a thousand faces, though.

People chuck those terms around to describe hack Hollywood stories, mostly.

Frank Herbert's Adult Beefswelling is as close to playful as he ever got.

He certainly subverted the Destined Hero's story. Twice.

the 3 acts of Dune
- Boy in a strange new land
- Boy flees into wilderness and becomes a Man.
- Man returns and crushes his enemies
with each act having several stages.

Now I suggest we get together and play board games.

I'm more hoping these two movies do well enough to warrant Dune Messiah and Children of Dune.

Doon. Arruckus. Dessert planet.

I was wrong about everything I said earlier, but I'm right about this: Kyle MacLachlan had better Atreides hair.

The Dune sequels never happened, Garcet.

While I agree about everything post-Frank Herbert, I liked Dune Messiah the most. It’s the Empire Strikes Back of the series.

I just read Messiah for the first time this month, and it has certainly changed my understanding of the series. I liked it, but I can't really imagine a film adaptation of a novel that consists of scene after scene of characters having meetings while being hyper-aware of the secret undercurrents in each other's every utterance and facial tic.

As for Empire... I'd say Messiah is closer to Last Jedi in terms of taking a beloved hero and turning him into an asshole, but really Star Wars has never even come close to doing anything as bold and unpleasant as Messiah.

Maybe the prequels? But Vader was always a villain. Messiah is like watching Luke Skywalker kill and then become Palpatine. It's pretty great!

The slow blade cuts the hair.

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