They've left cruelty in the background. They're totally anti-pet, which is weird. Apparently a bunch of people who saved parrots and other pet birds from New Orleans were stalked and harassed by PETA people.

I mean, I am not discounting what Document said above, because PETA are a bunch of fucktards, but they are right about fat people eating too much fast food. This isn't hard.

And neither is the fatty arguing against...being called fat.

Oh, I agree with that: fat people, quit it with the fatty foods. It's not a bad sentiment.

It's the blatant bastardry and media whoring of it that I disagree with. PETA didn't run the ad because they were deathly concerned about the obesity rates, they ran the most contentious thing they could think of to get people to talk about PETA. It's standard PETA bullshit.

That's my only objection.

That's the thing about PETA, they're right on a number of individual issues, but taken as a whole, they pretty much suck.

Weight loss isn't always a sign of health (nor is it necessarily a sign that you've lost fat; loss of muscle or bone density, for example, would show up as weight loss), but by the same token, meatless diets aren't necessarily healthy either. It's hard to get adequate protein without eating meat.

While I'm on the subject, the problem with fast food isn't really about the meat (or other animal products). Insane portion sizes, the fact that it's all drenched in bad fats, the high sugar content, and the utter lack of nutrition are the main culprits. You could eat vegetarian or even vegan meals at McDonalds and gain as much weight as anyone else. Half of fast food is corn, anyway.

It's perfectly easy to get adequate protein in a vegan diet. Soy for example, has a near ideal mix of aminos and more of them than dairy, or in defatted flour/tvp form, than any meat

That said, many vegan diets are lousy, just as many omni diets are - in each case, if you're relying on fast or processed foods there's a good likelyhood that your calories are empty.

What we've learned from the Atkin's/low-carb movement is that fat storage and mobilization is really all about blood sugar spikes, and hence the glycemic index, of foods. Refined foods, and starches of any sort, unless they're in a fiber-rich environment like some beans, will spike your blood sugar. Fruits and vegetables won't. So