The Westboro Baptist Church members are pretty pissed about this also. They didn't get any of the life-sustaining attention from burning a Qu'ran two years ago, nor did they get any this year for burning the holy book AND the American flag on Sept. 11th.

http://bit.ly/atSrTT

Shirley tries to salvage the fail of a media-whoring event:

"We get e-mails when things are happening here," she said. "We've had just a huge upsurge in e-mails. Plus, it's all over the Internet. It's all over Twitter."

But I JUST saw a bumper sticker that read WE STAND UNITED! Are you trying to tell me that a bumper sticker lied to me?

But getting a permit would have required giving MONEY to the GOVERNMENT.

In order to have a glorious space empire, one must first develop science. In order to develop science, one must find a way to convince people that a single, rational god created an ordered universe whose laws were discoverable by man. One must then convince these people to materially support an organization comprised of ascetics who spend all of their time playing intellectual hide-and-seek with this god instead of making tangible contributions to society.

Frustrating as religion can be, God is the FDIC of Western Civilization. You and I do not want to be around when everyone finally realizes we've run out of opium.

Um or not.

Seriously, if everyone was atheist, we wouldn't have goals as a civilization?

Religion is the best way to form a space empire.

We wouldn't have a glorious space empire with or without religion. There were always be bureaucracy and governments that stand in way. Or assholes like Thomas Edison.

Also, the speed of light is kind of a dick.

I didn't say we wouldn't have goals. We just wouldn't have civilization as we know it. This is a fairly simple historical concept. You can't climb the tech tree without religion. Sorry.

If everyone suddenly became an atheist, and we were able to keep all of the good things that came about as a result of religion, that would still be terrible. Entire continents of oppressed, miserable people would no longer have a way to understand or justify their misery. That would put a halt on "progress" just as effectively as anything else, since developed countries are only developed insofar as they rely on and maintain economic and social inequities.

"It will be a calamitous night, when man finally sees the truth. And an hour of delusion, when he believes in the rationality of the human race." ~Bertolt Brecht

Yeah, liberals like David Petraeus.

David Patraeus opposes the burning of Qu'arns for the welfare of the soldiers, for for fear of offending the savages.
Plus we don't need to burn Qu'rans cause we're better than them. Granted we'd still be better than them even if we did burn a ton of Qu'rans, but it makes us that much better.

PEOPLE get uptight about burn a Qu'ran day because it's a moronic hillbilly sentiment made from a mindset of willfull ignorance.

See Also: We're Better Than Them, America Is The Best Country In The World, Islam Is A (fundamentally more than mine) Violent Religion

because it's a pretty transparent attempt at scraping together a few more republican votes for november, and the families of the (actual) victims of 9/11 asked them not to do it

see my rant over at poe news


http://www.poe-news.com/forums/sp.php?pi=1002375764

http://www.poe-news.com/forums/sp.php?pi=1002376604

Rodents: You're right about book burning. It is stupid. However part of me wishes it went down because its failure shows that the Islamic world can run to our free media, whine, threaten, and get their way. It'd be like another "Everybody Draw Mohammad Day"

Thank you for admitting that book burning is essentially wrong. That was big of you.

I understand about wanting to piss off people that tell you not to do something you consider benign ala Draw Muhammad Day but I think the connotations are much different and if not burning fucking books keeps troops safer I think that is a very small thing to acquiesce to.

I don't think you understand how ratings work. Or did you expect him to smash a Kindle?

he wasn't making a general statement about religion. he thinks sharia law is coming and it's totally confirmed by the fact that his local greasy spoon employs a woman who wears a head-covering.

this is who put on the rally: http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/

So the Army should fight FOR our right to burn books, because that is the wisest choice?

Or maybe Petraeus was making a valid point in that this will not accomplish anything.

Pastor and ROUS are two of my favorite commenters, I'm late to the party, and the video won't play, and I grant that the actual fat douchebag is a fat douchebag -- but I have to side with Ferzen and others here.

We absolutely need "Burn a _____ Day" as well as "Lampoon a _____ Day", across the board. No set of beliefs or value system is beyond criticism or mockery.

As far as Islam, worldwide, on this issue, the double-standards are outrageous.
Out-fucking-rageous.