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Category:News & Politics, Humor
Tags:bill maher, ronald reagan, military industrial complex, Teabagger, supply side economics
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Date:06/09/13
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chairsforcheap
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Bort
Good points, but the original point still holds: the Tea Party has gone so far to the right, where even the tiniest flicker of sanity will get you rejected as a traitor, Reagan wouldn't fit in today. It's not about agreeing with the Tea Party MOST of the time, it's about agreeing with them ALL of the time. On the topic of US / Soviet relations alone, Reagan was sufficiently grounded in reality to not get us all killed, and that's more grounding than the Tea Party would permit. Cutting and running in Lebanon would have also shown Reagan to be a coward.

But yeah, Reagan did write the Tea Party playbook. And Dole followed it, which is why I don't feel any sympathy for Dole for being figuratively kicked by his party; Dole did what he could to see to it that dishonest, cynical politics would prevail. Only difference between today and the 90s is, back then, your average far right Republican Congressman knew that it was just a cynical game.
SteamPoweredKleenex
He wasn't grounded in reality at first. It took a FUCKING TV-MOVIE, "The Day After," to convince Saint Ronnie that nuclear war might not be awesome for America.

Yes, the right wing went bananas when he agreed to talks with the Soviets, and even Limbaugh called the talks with Gorbachev "having a Gorbasm," where you had a good feeling about it but it was all lies. The problems the right had with Reagan were quickly forgotten when they elected his analogue, George Bush II, who behaved just like first-term Reagan (saber-rattling, all or nothing, with us or against us) without the turning point of the second. I don't know what TV movie would've done it for Bush, but he exemplified Reagan's first term for both of his own.

I will say that he wouldn't be accepted if what legislation he passed was somehow seen as being as far as he'd go. I've no doubt that if Reagan were around today and able to run, he'd embrace the Tea Party platform without hesitation, grafting their ideals onto his platform.

Bort
If Reagan were an up-and-coming politician today, yeah, he'd happily cleave to the Tea Party standard.

By the way, it probably wasn't just "The Day After" that changed Reagan's outlook (though it was a part):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Able_Archer_83

The "American reaction" section has a lot of good material on Reagan coming to terms with the realities of nuclear war. I wouldn't go so far as to call him intellectually curious, but his mind was just open enough that a little sanity could squeeze its way in. We saw that nothing could speak sanity to Bush II, and he was still more sane than the Tea Baggers.

Jet Bin Fever
Last line was great. I don't like a lot of what Maher does, but at least he's good at doing it.
memedumpster
By the Wrinkled Balls of Reagan!
Nikon
That last line was great.
Caminante Nocturno
Ronald Reagan is in Hell.
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