|Oscar Wildcat - 2016-05-27 |
There is a long history of this sort of thing, most famously Sealand and Prince Roy ( google for much more info ). The bit about saving the planet and helping mankind made me laugh: how these things have been used historically is well documented. Pirate radio ( the infamous radio caroline452 for example, as memorialized in Thomas Dolby's song "Radio Silence" ) prostitution, abortion service, drug manufacture, gambling, etc etc.
The problem with this idea is that without a nation state to back you up, you are sitting in international waters with a boatload of valuable goods and nothing to protect you. That situation is usually quickly remedied, much to the chagrin of the founders who end up dead or stranded on an island. It seems libertarianism quickly devolves to barbarism when put into practice. Who could have guessed? It seems Peter Thiel, like John McAfee, needs to discover this fact for himself though personal experience. I for one welcome more object lessons.
MacGyver Style Bomb
Turns out that building a nation requires sacrifice and the willingness to put the needs of your country before your own. Go figure.
The Republic of Minerva fell at the hands of the Tongan Navy. The Minervans didn't put up a fight and the atoll was later reclaimed by the ocean.
Peter Thiel and his ilk think they are this generations oil barons or railroad tycoons.
The biggest difference I think is that they are complete pussies. Like, I feel like Leland Stanford would put up a fight. I might kick JP Morgan's ass but he would get some good shots in. If Thiel or any of these other tech millionaire loudmouths got into a fist fight with a Girl Scout they would end up weeping and bleeding, every time.
I have a wonderful little book, published by the now extinct press Loompanics, called "How to start your own country' by Erwin Strauss. It has a comprehensive list of these sorts of experiments, up to about 1984. Well worth reading for those who, like Mr. Thiel, seem to have been born yesterday.
Yeah, freedom is hard. Better to stay put on the plantation.
Because being a tech billionaire in the US is like being a slave. Homer, the absurdity of these libertarian micronations is all the trouble these dorks go through just to make statement about hating taxes. They're willing to go through tons of trouble and expense to live on a barge, rather than have the benefits of our society and have to pay taxes.
When their barge nation fails sinks who do you think they're gonna call?
And to further Cena's point: he's paying 15% tax on his investment income, whereas you and I pay 30% tax on our wages and personal income. And does he fight to keep these freedoms, or do you? Plantation? Frankly, those slaveholders actually took care of their slaves, they were valuable assets. We aren't even that. But I know, you're just Evilhomering us. Frankly, I like EvilHolden much more than Homer: more of that cat please.
I remember an episode of Forensics Files where there was this sort of libertarian island paradise baby boomers would sail yachts to. This couple staying at the island had a top of the line yacht and apparently one hand gun to defend themselves with. It didn't take long until a drug dealer from Hawaii stole a beat up boat and drifted over to this island. Long story short, the drug dealer got the fancy yacht and the remains of the couple washed up on the island months later in a steamer chest.
They still make actual deck cannons for boats that just snap in place and are ready to go.
If I had a 30' sailboat it would be armed like a bergantina, Star Trek didn't raise no freighter captain.
I could see pirates being a threat to these micronations if they ever got off the ground. Soon enough they'd come crawling to the very nation's they shrugged off for help.
|Raggamuffin - 2016-05-28 |
"replace fossil fuels with kelp"
|memedumpster - 2016-05-28 |
Bioshock Corporate looks awesome!
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