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lotsmoreorcs - 2016-09-09

Did solro flag them or something? Wtf is going on in the hopper anyways you guys are attempting to marginalize anything and everything outside of their safe space comfort zones, much of which I don't even have anything to do with! For example that prank call with the caller being horrified by the concept of Catholicism and eating the body of Christ is fucking hilarious! There's a lot of other funny shit going to the wayside as well because of these sour pusses

SolRo - 2016-09-09

It's because you exist here.

If you'd just man up and pull the trigger we could let more marginal political videos through the hopper knowing they aren't being submitted by a racist shitlord pushing his white power delusions.

Nominal - 2016-09-10

Truly this place will become a tolerant safe haven once everyone starts calling on undesirables to kill themselves.

baleen - 2016-09-10

orcs, you're using the account of a dead person that some people really liked here.

you hit hard with being a Trump supporter while posting a bunch of stormfront shit.

Just because a viewpoint exists doesn't mean it has to be respected by rational people. The world is not 50% Donald Trump and 50% everything else. Sometimes things are just wrong and stupid. A lot of people on this website have varying views on national policy, some are more interventionist, some are more Chris Hedges and Norm Finkelstein about everything.

One thing you don't find much of here is racist Donald Trump bullshit, and that's actually a good thing for the world.

William Burns - 2016-09-10

You didn't even rate or favorite Ian Curtis Rides A Rollercoaster you useless fuck

poorwill - 2016-09-10

Thanks for reminding me to do that William Burns.

EvilHomer - 2016-09-10

Speaking of, am I only person who routinely confuses Ian Curtis with Ian Stuart? I intentionally skipped the Ian Curtis Rollercoaster video because of that - not because I have anything against that "other" Ian (I do not), but because I was worried the whole comments section would turn into an exhibit in itself.

Is that a form of self-censorship? I always thought I was above that, but, man, I should go watch the rollercoaster video, thanks Mr Burns!

Adham Nu'man - 2016-09-10

"orcs, you're using the account of a dead person that some people really liked here."

Woah woah woah, I mean yeah I don't follow this site as closely anymore but when did that happen? Please point me in the direction of this delicious poetv drama.

Miss Henson's 6th grade class - 2016-09-10

You're obnoxious and unlikable. Your views are repugnant. You angle for victim status while posting a whole lot of white nationalist nonsense to the site. You're camping on the account of a poster lots of people actually liked who is currently deceased. You call us degenerates while admitting to recreational heroin use. You've insulted gay posters for being gay despite describing yourself as "hetero-flex." Every post you make is ultimately about you and your terrible personality, even the one you left under KingArthur's announcement that he had terminal cancer. You wished a heart attack on my "fat mom." You criticized me for daring to use correct punctuation. You contribute nothing of value, not even "diversity" or "another view," as I'm sure you'd like to put it. Despite all of this, you're too stupid to understand why people don't like you.

In short, you suck. Fuck off.

lotsmoreorcs - 2016-09-10

hey guys, what if zoe never existed?

lotsmoreorcs - 2016-09-10

also holy shit is jim hensons 6th grade bloated corpse autistic as a motherfucker as what, he must be cacheing my comments in a folder somewhere.

also, in 2016 there is nothing wrong with being a racist. in fact, im proud to say i would love to see all blacks exterminated, the stigma of the r word is being removed more and more. you're all just full of anxiety feels because once trump gets in it's going to be a lot more risky for you all to practice your particular brand of censorship.

and why would i kill myself when my day to day life kicks so much ass?

lotsmoreorcs - 2016-09-10

also, true story, i beat up a nigger in the wal mart parking lot yesterday night for yelling at my girlfriend for getting in his way. like basically curb stomped his toothy ass. chew on that, faggots!

Miss Henson's 6th grade class - 2016-09-10

I've got a good memory. It's kind of a curse. And maybe I spend a bit too much time here. But your posts speak for themselves.

lotsmoreorcs - 2016-09-10

you respond quick too, has your fat sweaty farm animal fuck mom succumbed to the big C yet?

(With Apologies to Phil Hendrie)

It's time to step away from the brother buffet. America has had enough All You Can Eat Negro, and I absolutely agree with Zack (de la) Linly, professional problem negro. Mr. Linly, a (((community organizer and activist))), was recently given a platform for the same old shit in the WaPo. But as our good friend and colleague Morrakiu might quip, it's time to agree with liberals for the wrong reasons.

Mr. Linly states the obvious: "It's Time to Stop Talking About Racism With White People." I could not agree more, and the lead photo encapsulates everything wrong with the modern Black Lives Matter movement: problem negroes, protest marches, propaganda posters with communist revolutionary themes--all things I've had quite enough of. Black Lives Matter, however, is not really about Blacks or lives; it has been subsumed by the modern communist/antifa movement. Just look at their list of demands:

Guaranteed livable minimum income
Corporate and Government reparations
Reparations for Cultural Appropriation
Reallocating money away from law enforcement
Universal Health Care
Cutting the military
Stopping Fossil Fuels
Radical Redistribution of Wealth
Financial Support for Black Institutions
Outlawing Private Schools
Release of "Political Prisoners" (read: Mumia)
Automatic Vote Registration
Right to vote at 16
Illegal Immigrant and Felon Voting
The list boils down to mo money fo dem programs, a final solution for Whites, politically speaking, and every other demand of the radical environmental and communist left. They have grown from being pro-crime, anti-White, and anti-cop to being the foot soldiers for communists.

Linly's argument is that Whites simply are not accepting BLM's whining on an emotional level. White America is too tied to our antiquated notions of truth, due process, and law and order. They cannot understand why we think the statistically underrepresented instances of cops shooting blacks is not that large a concern in light of the killing negro fields of Chicago and Detroit. While Whites may use facts and statistics to shred BLM, they don't really believe their shit. Linly claims we just do it because we want to counter-signal. We do it because we beez racist n sheeit. The dindu cries racism as he ooks at you.

I don't fight problem negroes because I'm racist; I fight them because they are a threat to my existence. In my line of work I necessarily deal with the things BLM complains about. Statistically, however, the number of "bad cops" is so small it really only merits attention when it happens. In other words, "police shoot unarmed Black man" only sticks out like a sore thumb because 1. It happens so rarely when compared to overall encounters with Blacks (who commit most crime, natch) and 2. The media has (((agendas))) to push. I have been a defense attorney for almost 10 years and only twice have I had a case where a bad cop was involved (a going rate of much less than 1%), and even then the criminal did not go free, but got a more favorable sentence. In the meantime, bad negroes? I've had my fill, though my income largely depends on them.

In the current year, the left has gone full circle towards segregation. The mention of "a conversation on race" evokes White eye-rolling and Blacks burning down weave stores and looting quick-stops. It's time to stop talking about race. As long as Blacks are violent communist tools, there is no talking to them. We acknowledge what's really going on--blacks want their own space. Let's disengage completely. Let them have it. If every Black Lives Matter problem negro lived in Negropolis where there was communist rule and no police, the reversion to the mean would be swift and brutal. But hey, they wouldn't have whitey keeping them down.

And as for the non-stop talking about race, I've had all I can eat. Check please.

Miss Henson's 6th grade class - 2016-09-10

A very old idea in stupid hipster gear, more Oral Farvus than Jim Goad. While I do think that some black people have a genuine grievance with the way that they're treated by cops, I'm not a fan of BLM. But you hardly have to be some sort of leftist radical to consider most of the above to be absolute horseshit. To wit: there is no separating black people and white people in America. The idea that a population that's been here from the 1600s can be suddenly severed from another population that's been here almost as long is a segregationist fantasy. It has never reflected American reality, and never will. White people are going to have to accept the presence and persistence of black people, and vice-versa. Anyway, American blacks are usually at least partly white, racially speaking, and American white people aren't much more than European mulattoes. Racial purity is an illusion.

But I get the sense that this is mostly projection: it isn't black people, in general, who'd like to found a black-only nation, outliers like the Nation of Islam quite aside. It's you, and people like you. Only white people who were raised in white-majority suburbs could ever think that this was even a possibility. People in other countries, and in American cities, know that it's not so easy to simply tear populations in two. They are used to living among people not of their class or race. They deal. You are, well, not dealing.

You can criticize American blacks for lots of things. American blacks criticize each other for lots of things, usually in conversations that do not involve white people. Race is difficult. Whiteness -- by itself -- is hard to talk about. The economy's not great, and shit is tense. But none of this justifies the nonsense you posted above.

baleen - 2016-09-10

1. Obnoxious troll pleads for acceptance from cool people which is the only reason he comes here.

2. Is rejected.

3. Rather than pulling a cena_mark doubles down Frank Rizzo style with anecdote about being a nigger bouncer and saying dead poe user never existed (apparently some users actually talked to her so this is doubtful). For those who do not know who Zoe Anderson/lotsmoreorcs was, here: http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=145220

Your comment about Zoe was worse than the shit I said about Rachel Corrie to piss off the kneejerk anti-Israel contingent.

4. I predict you'll disappear from here for a few months, lotsmoreorcs. Then you'll either come back to shitpost Waugh-style or you'll reinvent yourself under another kinder, gentler account so that you can socially engineer us from the inside or whatever.

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2016-09-10

If somebody stabs YOU to death Orcs, I promise to post a memorial video. I've already got some swell clips picked out.

Oscar Wildcat - 2016-09-10

G.I. Gurdjieff once wrote:

"In order to awaken, first of all one must realize that one is in a state of sleep. And in order to realize that one is indeed in a state of sleep, one must recognize and fully understand the nature of the forces which operate to keep one in the state of sleep, or hypnosis. It is absurd to think that this can be done by seeking information from the very source which induces the hypnosis."

Now take user Bort, for example. He's starting to awaken: see how he begins to ask himself those niggling questions. "What do I really know to be true? What is illusion?". It's important to act on those impulses, and not suppress them as you have been conditioned.

Oscar Wildcat - 2016-09-10

@JHM: That's a fucking great idea actually. Why wait? Post the memorial clip right now. My upvote and stars are ready.

Nominal - 2016-09-10

Didn't the Cena libertarian act start out as a Devil's Homer alt just so he could debate himself?

Then he got tired and only uses it as a My Little Pony meme exchange now?

Gmork - 2016-09-10

"If the cool kids won't let me into their club, I'll just run around outside yelling nigger!" ~orcs

TeenerTot - 2016-09-10

I don't understand why so many folks still engage with orcs at all. I find him a boring attention whore.

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2016-09-11

Tempting, but against the rules.

teethsalad - 2016-09-11

looks like the nazi crustie trustie funder got his account suspended

thanks, whoever's in charge

bawbag - 2016-09-11

Thank you support/pms!

Sexy Duck Cop - 2016-09-11

Because there are ISIS commanders who can see why this commercial is a bad idea on infinite levels.

Rodents of Unusual Size - 2016-09-11

Holy shit. I saw SolRo post something about you being racist before but never really bothered to read your shtick.

This is a shitton of work to go through in order to annoy this website. And all you are is boring. At least SolRo is annoying in an interesting way.

Miss Henson's 6th grade class - 2016-09-11


Now let's talk about My Little Pony and conspiracy theorists who make funny videos and black Americans we love and respect.

Jaguar Wong - 2016-09-10

There is clearly a beard-based cuckold subtext to this advertisement.

simon666 - 2016-09-10

Too soon.

The Mothership - 2016-09-10

That was funny on multiple levels. Can you name them all?

Callamon - 2016-09-10

For starters they got the two swarthiest looking dudes to do it.

The Mothership - 2016-09-10

Oh god I just noticed that the two guys knocked over two towers of mattresses, this clip gets funnier and funnier.

15th - 2016-09-10

I don't find this funny at all. Finding the humor in something tragic is a beautiful thing, but 99% it's hackneyed and stupid.


user name synergy.

15th - 2016-09-10

I listened to a great story on the NPR about the humor in tragedy. I'll never forget this joke that was made by a mourning daughter:

Her father had just died and her and her family were devastated. Her friend was over and she went into the fridge and the butter dish fell out and broke on the floor. She turned to her friend and soberly said: "That was my dad's."

I believe that is an example of tragic humor operating on its highest level. It's really beautiful.

This clip is on the other end of spectrum, for me. This is one notch above bacon memes. I don't hate it for moral reasons, I hate it because it is a beautiful, rare thing made ugly and common.

15th - 2016-09-10

And once the mark is missed the morality comes into play. They are trying to meme their way into selling fucking mattresses using a mass murder.

The Mothership - 2016-09-10

I come here to see horrible things and to laugh at them and to make snarky comments with like minded people.

Why do you come here 15th?

15th - 2016-09-11

To type.

The Mothership - 2016-09-11


Old_Zircon - 2016-09-11

15th I've read the butter dish thing three times and I don't see any joke there at all.

Old_Zircon - 2016-09-11

Anyway, this video is funny because it's such an obviously bad idea seen through to its logical conclusion with conviction.

15th - 2016-09-11

I explained that poorly. The joke was it was a completely insignificant butter dish, she was just messing with her friend. I was in a bad mood yesterday. I wasn't directing that rant at mothership or anyone. Yeah, considering how bad of an idea this was - it is pretty funny in that way.

15th - 2016-09-11

Yesterday was very unpoetv of me. I climbed a high horse and forgot to laugh at absurd things. I sentence myself to 45minutes of Rain Florance videos.

The Mothership - 2016-09-12

We all have off days, don't sweat it.

Old_Zircon - 2016-09-10

Needs more Nic Cage but still pretty decent.

Maggot Brain - 2016-09-10

Never forget our everyday low, low prices!

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2016-09-10

The big problem here is that none of these people are white.

And now we get the same people who wail about "political correctness", tearing their hair and rending their garments at the offense.

It's pretty funny. It's in bad taste. We don't need everybody to demonstrate how personally offended they are.

It's really a shame, that sounded like a hell of a sale.

EvilHomer - 2016-09-10

The woman is white?

And who, exactly, is "tearing their hair"? Preferably with direct citations which illustrate the behavior you allege, because so far, the only people I know who are reacting to this are poeTV users, and all of those weirdos seem to think this ad is pretty funny.

magnesium - 2016-09-10

I assume he's referring to the people in the city this aired. The store really is closing because of the reaction apparently.

EvilHomer - 2016-09-10


Well, what city do they come from? San Antonio? I don't know much about San Antonio; how big is the backlash against this store, and is the city itself (or at least the resident involved in any protests) well-known for being politically incorrect?

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2016-09-10

Actually, I was referring to other videos that use this clip. I guess I should have been clearer, but I assumed there are pissed off people in everything that links to this.

I'm an old white guy who grew up surrounded by white people, so I don't trust my own judgment on this, but all these people look to me like they could be of middle-eastern descent. I would think that anyone who an old white guy could mistake for being possibly middle-eastern would know better than to pull this sort of shenanigans in Texas. I'm still not convinced that this isn't going to turn out to be a prank. If it's a joke, it's a wonderful joke, a thing of beauty.

EvilHomer - 2016-09-10

Well, which other videos? Please cite some.

I ask because, 1) we both know that you have been tilting at windmills a lot lately, seeing problems where there are none, and 2) anecdotally, the LEAST politically correct people I know, are also the ones MOST likely to joke about 9/11. That may not hold true everywhere, but my experience has always been that there is a positive correlation between "political incorrectness" regarding lefty issues and "political incorrectness" regarding 9/11.

RedRust - 2016-09-10

Who was this dead person that orcs is using their account?

Bort - 2016-09-10

Well, the story is that the account was once used by a girl named Julia "Zoey" Anderson, who took to traveling and was eventually murdered in New Orleans.


Then the current lotsmoreorcs took over the account.

Only thing is, I think we have only the current lotsmoreorcs' word to go on, that Zoey was ever in any way associated with the account. Unless someone else can corroborate, I am guessing there's only ever been the one lotsmoreorcs, and he tried to drum up some forum drama after reading about Zoey in the newspaper.

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2016-09-10

Well, there was allegedly another Lotsmoreorcs, who was really nice. She posted in the comments of these videos. Here's a couple of video memorials. What we know for sure is that the lovely young woman in the pictures was 23 years old when she was stabbed in a McDonald parking Lot in New Orleans, I want to say March 2015, and her family is now taking care of her dog, whose name is Mama.



EvilHomer - 2016-09-10

Orcs has had a lot of different posting styles over the years, which even before The Reveal caused many (including myself) to suspect that Orcs was a collective, rather than a single poester. Furthermore, "Zoe" Orcs had established a fairly detailed story even before her passing - including stuff about her dad, which the obituaries and tributes later confirmed. I'm pretty confident Zoe was indeed who she claimed to be, as such details would have been far too specific to establish and get right prior-to-the-fact, had Zoe been just a random person whom "Pride" Orcs saw in the papers.

And I gotta say, regardless of the truth, it's been pretty shitty the way some people treated her, as well as the way some now treat Pride. Angry people often told Zoe Orcs to get raped and murdered, just as now, they tell Pride Orcs to OD and kill himself. It's violent, it's disturbing, and it's ugly. Now I don't know if Pride Orcs really buys all the RaHoWa stuff he's into these days. I suspect, like with most behavior on the internet, it's a mixture of genuine sincerity and humorous exaggeration. But I do know that the Orcs collective has often expressed frustration at the hypocrisy, and sociopathy, emanating from certain elements within the community - and credit where credit's due, the Orcs raise a fair point.

When it comes to dealing with certain members of a society - particularly outliers, like racists, addicts, and the homeless - it really IS as if "normal" people will readily drop any facade of propriety, correctness, and grace. And it really DOES seem as if the more sanctimoniously modern someone behaves, the harder they will drop this facade when faced with a vulnerable homeless person.

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2016-09-10

>>I'm pretty confident Zoe was indeed who she claimed to be, as such details would have been far too specific to establish and get right prior-to-the-fact, had Zoe been just a random person whom "Pride" Orcs saw in the papers.

I tend to agree.

Miss Henson's 6th grade class - 2016-09-10

EvilHomer, I get the sense that you more or less live to play the devil's advocate, but Pride Orcs deserves no respect because he has shown us precisely none. It's all very well to say that he's being "marginalized' by "normal" people and that that's unfair, but it's also nonsense.

This is an unmoderated forum. These places only work if people show a minimum amount of respect for each other and play by more-or-less the same set of rules. If they don't, they turn into pits of nastiness or boring monologues, people stop coming, and the community dies. There are plenty of people who post here that don't meet lots of people's definition of "normal:" gays, the proudly unemployed, bohemians, transexuals, people who pay for sex with transexuals. They all comment more or less respectfully and play more-or-less nice and so things go on running smoothly. But that's not the latest Orcs.

Orcs isn't here to add anything to the place: he'd rather see it go down in flames. Like most trolls, he likes feeling important and offending people. And that's without getting to his utterly terrible white nationalist views. The guy is literally here to destroy the place and for no other reason. There is no way in hell I'm obligated to respect any of this in the name of some bullshit "diversity," and people who make this argument are essentially using a leftist argument for hard-right purposes, which is the height of hypocrisy. After he insulted everyone here and broke every unspoken norm this place generally adheres to, he complained that, by mentioning him in a description, we weren't following one of the submission rules to the letter. Dude is simply too fucking much. He deserves no respect, and whoever still sort-of administrates him should ban him, like, yesterday. Or else people will just keep leaving, and he'll have nobody left to annoy.

Old_Zircon - 2016-09-10

I don't have time to dig up examples, but the Orcs account itself claimed to be a shared account spread by word of mouth among the community of crusties and travelers, with the password shared on the honor system, which if true would suggest that the current Orcs probably hijacked it since the posting style has been consistent since for I think 7 or 8 months at least.

I've got no issue with just ignoring the obvious trolling personally but it's too bad that it has driven away some of the better remaining long-term members recently.

EvilHomer - 2016-09-10

But is it even a matter of "respect" to refrain from telling someone to get raped and/or commit suicide? I get what you are trying to say - "respect" must be earned, and you do not feel Pride Orcs has earned that - but even poesters whom I don't necessarily respect very much, like Mr SolRo for example (sorry Mr SolRo), I would not want them to be raped and/or die. And I think, surely, you would agree with this!

That is not me being a "devil's advocate"; while I try to consider both sides of any issue, and I will often privately DA with myself before settling on a public position, I only occasionally advocate, and then usually just in debates with Cena, or when I am maneuvering Gmork into a position from which I can reveal his philosophical inconsistencies. No, to me, that is not devil's advocating, it is just extending to Pride Orcs the basic level of courtesy, tolerance, and open-mindedness that I feel is essential for living in a diverse society like our own.

Potrod - 2016-09-10

Sharing your account at all, let alone among a bunch of crusties--and I have the same memories as OZ of those claims being made before one of them was murdered--is dumb and the end result that we're currently witnessing isn't very surprising. Just about the only criticism of orcs I don't buy is that he's specifically disrespecting one (out of however many) person who also used the account.

EvilHomer - 2016-09-10

Also, let's assume, just for the sake of argument, that Pride Orcs really is causing a lot of problems. He really is burning down the poeTV comments community.

What, then, is the best course of action?

The Anti-Orcs faction believes the best course of action is throwing a series of fits. It believes that Orcs must be silenced through oblique censorship - downvoting suspected Orcs-submissions, one-starring confirmed Orcs subsmissions so they drop off the front page, spite-starring unrelated videos which happen to have an Orcs comment on them, etc. In short, their solution to the Orcs Problem... is to burn down the poeTV comments section.

Compare this to my own solution. I try to be patient with Orcs. I ask questions when I feel questions are warranted, I don't get baited by "offensive" comments, and I treat him as civilly as I treat anyone else. The result? Nothing much, really! Sometimes he ignores me, sometimes he answers my questions and I learn a little, sometimes he even softens *his* tone, which makes sense as there is nothing to feed the animosity. There's no drama, there's no hate - nothing burns down.

I think my way is working out better, don't you?

I mean, look. We're a community of furries, faggots, anime fans, autists, nerds, bouncers, Christians, cyberbullies, socialists, feminists, fatties, gamers, drag queens, gun nuts, John Holmes, and at least one confirmed pedophile. I think a single homeless Nazi can fit in fine.

Miss Henson's 6th grade class - 2016-09-10

Sorry, Homer, no. I'm willing to reason with lots of those people, and most of those groups you mentioned are fine with me. But you can't reason with the unreasonable without opening yourself up to getting pissed on. Dude should be "obliquely censured," sure. But he should also be flat-out banned. Does that make me a "bad guy?" An oppressor? Well, oops. I guess I'M the Nazi now!

RedRust - 2016-09-10

Well, thats quite a back story. Thanks for the info.

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2016-09-10

>>>EvilHomer, I get the sense that you more or less live to play the devil's advocate,

As a matter of fact, I'm very nearly convinced that Homer is the actual Devil.

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2016-09-10

>>>The Anti-Orcs faction believes the best course of action is throwing a series of fits. It believes that Orcs must be silenced through oblique censorship - downvoting suspected Orcs-submissions, one-starring confirmed Orcs subsmissions so they drop off the front page, spite-starring unrelated videos which happen to have an Orcs comment on them, etc. In short, their solution to the Orcs Problem... is to burn down the poeTV comments section.

Lord Lucifer has a point. Trolls rarely come more obvious. Enjoy the troll when you can, ignore the troll when you can't. On the other hand, if you ENJOY giving Orcs submissions one star, by all means, knock yourselves out. There's no right way to POE.

Maggot Brain - 2016-09-10

All these feelings towards Orcs I never knew I had. first there was confusion, then anger, then annoyance, now I mostly feel sad which is normal.

Gmork - 2016-09-10

"or when I am maneuvering Gmork into a position from which I can reveal his philosophical inconsistencies."

Which has literally never happened. You just throw labels at me haphazardly, and they don't stick because there isn't an ounce of truth to your claims.

EvilHomer - 2016-09-10

It happened no more than a couple weeks ago, when I got you to flipflop on your position vis-a-vis the ethical primacy of tolerance. It's easy to support intolerance when it doesn't cost you anything; it's only when such behavior is turned around and used upon you, that one begins to really see the consequences of endorsing certain modes of interaction.

Gmork - 2016-09-10

"It happened no more than a couple weeks ago, when I got you to flipflop on your position vis-a-vis the ethical primacy of tolerance"

Completely untrue - I never flip-flopped. In fact, I caught you in a prime bit of hypocrisy in that very exchange.

"It's easy to support intolerance when it doesn't cost you anything; it's only when such behavior is turned around and used upon you, that one begins to really see the consequences of endorsing certain modes of interaction."

That's just embarrassing to read. You really are on autopilot, aren't you?

EvilHomer - 2016-09-10

No, I caught you. Ensnared you, in fact.

You can't have it both ways, Mr Gmork. Either we should tolerate intolerance - which is the position I take when I am not playing the devil's advocate, and is the position I forced you to adopt - or else intolerance is intolerable - which is what you yourself have typically maintained, but were shown most unwilling to adhere to once your own intolerance was on the chopping block.

You clearly remember this exchange, and yet you pretend it never happened. Why?

Gmork - 2016-09-10

"No, I caught you. Ensnared you, in fact."

No, you absolutely did not.

"You can't have it both ways, Mr Gmork. Either we should tolerate intolerance - which is the position I take when I am not playing the devil's advocate, and is the position I forced you to adopt - or else intolerance is intolerable - which is what you yourself have typically maintained, but were shown most unwilling to adhere to once your own intolerance was on the chopping block."

Wrong, wrong, wrong. I made the distinction that the tolerance we were talking about is "social tolerance", not the vague all-encompassing arbitrary definition you chose to interpret it as. Social tolerance in a society is directly negated by things like racial intolerance and the like. The fact you're continuing to pretend this distinction was never made would normally be flabbergasting, except that your schtick lately has been comprised of nothing BUT ignoring the argument at hand in favor of your own fabricated interpretation of events.

"You clearly remember this exchange, and yet you pretend it never happened. Why?"

I literally have the exact same question of you. Why pretend that the argument is what you'd rather it be, instead of what I was actually saying?

Rodents of Unusual Size - 2016-09-11

I thought baleen was the moderator of this forum. He threatened to kick me off of "his" site so I just assumed he could do the same to whoever the fuck orcs is.

DriverStabby - 2016-09-10

I thought it was fucking funny.

Mr. Purple Cat Esq. - 2016-09-10

Its actually really fucked up that the mattress store has closed for having a sense of humor.
For me 911 was the day the US got just the tiniest amount of comeuppance for once.

Raggamuffin - 2016-09-10

"You see, it's because the deaths of innocents is an abstract concept and it's because life is a video game." -Purple

dairyqueenlatifah - 2016-09-10

Yeah man, thousands of civilians going about their daily lives totally deserved to be murdered

Miss Henson's 6th grade class - 2016-09-10

Your opinions are awful.

Potrod - 2016-09-10

I have nothing really to add except support for the three replies above, especially the third.

15th - 2016-09-10

Comeuppance is beating your cocky friend at badminton or something. Thousands of people were murdered.

The mattress store's sense of humor was shit. They wanted internet fame, apparently they got it - fuck em.

Mr. Purple Cat Esq. - 2016-09-10

Well, the US just got taste of its own medicine. After directly (bombing) or indirectly (embargoing, and depriving of food and medecine) killing at least a million innocent people in various middle-eastern countries over the preceeding decade. All in service of the humdrum task of manipulating its internal politics and swindling its own population.
Its all massively fucked up, but to me, at least the US felt the tiniest bit of reprecussions for its actions.
Its like in WW2, the Germans bombed civilians, so the allies bombed civilians, its hugely fucked up but after being bombed themselves British civilians were in favour of it.
I think the saddest thing is that the US population in general has been so successfully hoodwinked, most of them couldnt even tell you *why* the Sept 11th attacks were carried out.

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2016-09-10

The Onion did a very similar joke once, but I think this is funnier.

http://www.theonion.com/article/new-subway-promotion-to-honor- subtember-11-33768

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2016-09-10

I used to edit lawbooks, a job that's mostly proofreeding, and I was terrible at it because I have ADHD. That Tuesday morning, the first moment when I learned about the second plane, and we understood what happened, I was at my job. The fellow worker who gave me the news and I looked at each other, and we were both thinking the same thing. I was the one who said it: "The chickens are coming home to roost."

That's sort of true, but the deeper truth is that there was no comeuppance. For the most part, it was death for the innocent, while the powerful were given a gift that they could redeem to extend their power, and to push their agenda, which meant, among other things, more death for the innocent.

I still think it's a funny joke. Most people are innocent, and everyone dies. It's the human condition, right?

Monkey Napoleon - 2016-09-10

The American people *never* supported interventionist policy as a whole, and if you're going to hold the civilian population of a country responsible for their government's policies... then by what logic, exactly, are you claiming that bombing civilians is unethical?

I find the weird complex non-americans get about us to be fascinating, especially in dominant white euro and oceanic nations. I'm sure it's convenient for you to pretend your foreign policy is not the same in every way or worse, being the thralls to us that you are.

Mr. Purple Cat Esq. - 2016-09-10

@Monkey Napoleon. A population must be responsible for its own government. If not who else? Ignorance or apathy are not adequate defenses. I'm Irish, and we let US planes land at Shannon on their way to the middle-east with various war-materiel. We're also guilty for allowing and tacitly accepting this (along with many other things). I just wouldnt be suprised if there was a terror attack here. I (at least) make the effort to find out whats going on and what has been done in my name, and also to do what I can to reign my government in.

Miss Henson's 6th grade class - 2016-09-10

So I bet if a car bomb went off in downtown Dublin, you'd be all like, "Well, serves us right, I suppose."

Fuck off, you sanctimonious third-party national, you.

That guy - 2016-09-13

"A population must be responsible for its own government."

Purp, would you say the opposite of this when it suits your sentiments, as well? Do I need to track you?

Or do you always think that the citizenry is responsible for the elites/power structure in every group worldwide??

...Lost big time respect for you here. Well done.

StanleyPain - 2016-09-10

I thought this was pretty funny, but of course here in Murica you can only exploit 9/11 for *political* gain.

StanleyPain - 2016-09-10

Oh, and on the orcs issue.

orcs, you can drop the fucking act. We know you're just some internet troll alt-right loser who doesn't know when to give up the ghost. I'm sure you think it's "funny" to keep up the racist facade because, well...people like you do.

But see...here's the thing, orcs. A lot of us have been on POE for fucking YEARS. More than 10. More than 15. Some more than 20. We have seen your kind come and go countless times over the years and none of you "ironic" racist troll shitheads ever distinguish yourselves in the LEAST bit, ever. You are the same dumb ass we have seen 1,000 times since the Usenet days. You are unfathomably boring and unoriginal and not 1/800,000th as clever or edgy as you think you are.
You are as average as it comes. As banal and bland as the internet can get. You are the most predictable, pedestrian, person anyone could ever hope to encounter on the internet.

So...a lot of us don't hate you...we're just SO BORED with you.

bawbag - 2016-09-10

POE-red was one of the first bookmarks I ever made, during college in 2000 or so, you nailed it Stan.

Caminante Nocturno - 2016-09-10

This can't be real.

il fiore bel - 2016-09-10

I dunno... it is the South. And the south loves strange furniture commercials.

RedRust - 2016-09-10

Oh its real. There is a lot of backlash from the community on the mattress store's facebook page. The owner of the store (which is the fat lady's dad) attempted to write an apology letter online, however no one was having it.

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2016-09-10

I still think white people would have gotten away with it.

EvilHomer - 2016-09-10

White people did get away with it.

(google "Bandar Bush")

Binro the Heretic - 2016-09-10

Fuck mattress dealers, anyway, bunch of price-gouging crooks that they are.

Oh, you can afford to sell a full, queen or king mattress for the same price as a twin? That tells me you mark-up is fucking ludicrous.

Crackersmack - 2016-09-10

I'm pretty sure that they are only closing temporarily because a bunch of crybabies are protesting outside their store. If I lived in San Antonio I'd buy a mattress from them.

Scrotum H. Vainglorious - 2016-09-10

They single-handedly destroyed their own business.

Miss Henson's 6th grade class - 2016-09-10

It's very meta.

EvilHomer - 2016-09-10

"9/11 Mattress Sale" was an inside job.

badideasinaction - 2016-09-11

Okay finally a post in this shitstorm that made me laugh.

Rodents of Unusual Size - 2016-09-11

Which is sad, because the ad is genuinely funny.

il fiore bel - 2016-09-10

Yeah, it was tasteless, but then most 9/11 sales kind of are.

I still lol'd.

Old_Zircon - 2016-09-11

I had no idea 9/11 sales were a thing.

Scrotum H. Vainglorious - 2016-09-11

Florida Walmart’s 9/11 Tribute Features Twin Towers Made Out Of Coke Products https://consumerist.com/2016/09/08/florida-walmarts-911-tribute-fe atures-twin-towers-made-out-of-coke-products/

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